They Needed a Minivan but Got a Gio: Reyna at Nottingham Forest (Olf Borussia Dortmund)

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  1. freisland

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    Jan 31, 2001
    I don't think brain science is exactly on board with this, but I am not, to be fair, a brain scientist.
     
  2. freisland

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    Jan 31, 2001
    I suppose. But if the question is "problem solving ability" and if the other question is: "Did Mathis approach his pointing-at-watch moment as a 'screw you I know you'll bench me but I want my moment of goating' moment, or did he believe his ability would transcend German discipline?" And if it was the former, then sure, his over-all problem-solving abilities were, perhaps, exceptional. But if it was the second, it's hard to credit his overall intelligence as exceptional.

    I think, though this is only from watching the "public" Mathis, that by most measures his intellect was lower than average, that he under-excelled given his gifts and drive, that he was unable to creatively/intelligently maximize his abilities.

    Perhaps I'm wrong. Perhaps now he is fat and happy and living the life he envisioned, lived on his own terms after achieving the exact level of success he desired. But my instinct is... nah.
     
  3. matabala

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    Sep 25, 2002
    And what I'm getting from this thread is a 17 year-old soccer brain, "Mathis-level" or not, can't be taken as a reliable indicator of future glory. The full story is never what it appears to be on a soccer pitch.
     
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  4. Eighteen Alpha

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    Perfect conditions to get him his first start ;)
     
  5. NietzscheIsDead

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    Yes, this is true.
     
  6. TimB4Last

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    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Seems unlikely, but I'm interested to see what they do with Haaland, who impressed last time out (I guess, if rapid-fire goals impress you).
     
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  7. NietzscheIsDead

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    It's all about the self-actualization. We get from life what we choose.

    By any definition of the term, Mathis accomplished an incredible amount of professional success relative to his peers.

    Would we all loved to have seen him in another world cup? Sure. Does it mean that he was unintelligent because he did not value that as much as we might? No.
     
  8. taylor

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    If they change the rules in march moukoko will break all the youth records...
     
  9. dougtee

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    Feb 7, 2007
    when will find out if maybe idiot, maybe idiot savant, maybe brain genius gio reyna makes the bench today?
     
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  10. TimB4Last

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    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    In less than an hour ...
     
  11. ArsenalMetro

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    Always an hour before kickoff, across every league.
     
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  12. ebbro

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    Jun 10, 2005
    Read an article with quotes from Favre that suggested Favre thinks he needs to improve his fitness. So, he may start on the bench.
     
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  13. dougtee

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    Feb 7, 2007
    never knew that, but i guess it makes sense for the gamblers
     
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  14. TimB4Last

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    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Of course I'm more interested in Reyna than in Haaland. I'm hopeful that 1) attention paid to Haaland may take a bit of the spotlight/pressure off Gio (on and off the field) as Gio settles in; but mostly 2) I think having Haaland as a big target and as a forward capable of combination play will help Gio (and Gio's stats) on the field.
     
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  15. glutton4Bolts

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    It should certainly help him get assists... dude is a beast.
     
  16. freisland

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    Jan 31, 2001
    Yep. Again, if our definition is "problem solving" and Mathis used his life strategies to achieve the goals he set to the best of his ability, then you can't ask for much more. Not being Mathis I will never know.

    But this is not a Mathis thread, so I will demure.
     
  17. freisland

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    Jan 31, 2001
    Reyna on bench...

    as per BVB
     
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  18. TimB4Last

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    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Reyna and Haaland on the bench.

    [​IMG]
     
  19. dougtee

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    Feb 7, 2007
    on the bench (with haaland lol)
     
  20. kruck

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    Hard to start over Sancho, Brandt, Reus or Hazard... hopefully things clear out a bit for him in the summer.
     
  21. thedukeofsoccer

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    Why the heck wouldn't Favre be starting Haaland yet? It's not even like Alcacer is out there instead. Also on the bench. Going w/ a false 9 instead.

    Doesn't near make the best of his rather substantial talent at Dortmund. Got diminishing returns at Nice too. Why I found that hire odd when you considered the potential alternatives like Nagelsmann and Rose.
     
  22. ebbro

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    Jun 10, 2005
    As I mentioned, Favre has suggested he doesn't have the endurance he wants right now.
     
  23. dougtee

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    Feb 7, 2007
    if haaland were asked to play the full 90 his goal scoring rate would dip to 10 per 90 instead of 12
     
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  24. dougtee

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    Feb 7, 2007
    hard to differentiate between the little kids and the dortmund first team
     
  25. dougtee

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    Feb 7, 2007
    dortmund scores in about 90 seconds and is lucky to not concede about 90 seconds later. that’s so dortmund
     
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