Gianluca Busio at Venezia (R)

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  1. felloveranddidanadu

    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Dec 12, 2009
    Club:
    San Jose Frogs
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. felloveranddidanadu

    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Dec 12, 2009
    Club:
    San Jose Frogs
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I could see it, but for me Busio has more strengths and I think is as intelligent, but it's his more well rounded game that leads him to a more complex role on the field. Beckerman as a stay at home 6 who could occasionally find a killer pass was perfect for him, but he also wasn't asked to carry the ball, nor make runs into the box, etc, etc.

    Unlike Beckerman, whose value was only really appreciated later on in his career, Busio has been front and center since he was, what?, 16? Surprised he's still only 20!
     
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  3. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
     
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  4. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Hope he stays in Serie A!

    Forza Gianluca!
     
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  5. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It’s problematic for Italian clubs to loan high-wage players out of Italy. The Italian government gave huge tax incentives to clubs to sign expensive players to make Serie A more competitive. Those incentives are lost if the player is loaned for an extended period out of Italy. It’s an issue for Reynolds.

    https://www.itaxa.it/blog/en/italian-tax-breaks-for-football-players-and-athletes/

    That’s why I think Reynolds is gonna go on loan within Italy or get sold
     
  6. ebbro

    ebbro Member+

    Jun 10, 2005
    How does this relate to Busio if he has a release clause?
     
  7. Gorky

    Gorky Member+

    Jul 28, 2006
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    New York Red Bulls
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    United States
    Loan release clause

    (something I have never heard of before)
     
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  8. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    I find it hard to imagine Reynolds is on a high wage.
     
  9. ebbro

    ebbro Member+

    Jun 10, 2005
    Ah, I overlooked the loan part of that tweet.
     
  10. comoesa

    comoesa Member+

    Aug 13, 2010
    Christen Press's armpit
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ahhh, Busio has a good agent.
     
  11. KALM

    KALM Member+

    Oct 6, 2006
    Boston/Providence
    One additional piece of context to the information above:

    https://www.espn.com/soccer/united-...ns-who-will-likely-find-new-homes-this-summer

    [P]er Busio's contract, the U.S. international midfielder can be loaned out for free for the upcoming season, although a source added the arrangement is conditional on Busio signing a contract extension. Whether he will go out on loan is still subject to some open questions, which include just how much Busio's World Cup prospects would be hurt by playing in Serie B, and the extent to which he's rated by new manger Ivan Javorcic.

    Sources tell ESPN that Venezia very much want Busio to stay and help with their attempt to get promoted back to the Italian top flight, and Busio's aims might be better served by staying there.
     
  12. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
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    United States
    Sounds like a tough choice. Though, there's always the possibility of not signing an extension and getting loaned out for a fee. Though I'm not sure how many suitors in Serie A--or another league above Serie B anyway--who would take that offer, given it would likely not be a particularly cheap loan and they'd be getting a young player with some good experience but a mixed track record.
     
  13. AngelaMerkin

    AngelaMerkin Member+

    Dec 2, 2005
    its only mixed because he came back from Covid a bit changed (like Pogba and Davies were for a time)
    Hopefully he can find a suitor in either Italy or Spain that want to give him a chance.
     
  14. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    With what he showed the last two months I doubt anyone relevant would be interested.
     
  15. AngelaMerkin

    AngelaMerkin Member+

    Dec 2, 2005
    You mean after he came back from Covid a noticeably changed player but couldn’t afford to be sat for four months like Alphonso Davies was allowed? That two months?
    Learn not to talk sometimes
     
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  16. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    No, I mean as a ball-watcher who lost his spot in a relegation-bound dumpster fire.
     
  17. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Campania
    From Triveneto Goal:

    Gianluca Busio will leave Venezia on loan during this transfer window. Venezia paid €6 million to Sporting Kansas City for him in the summer of 2021. However, the clauses in his contract provide for the possibility of a transfer on loan following relegation and, if Venezia do not immediately return to the Serie A, a release at zero cost for the 2023-24 season.

    https://www.trivenetogoal.it/2022/0...e-e-postille-e-uno-svincolo-possibile/156631/
     
  18. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Great addition to his contract. Credit to his agent for that!
     
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  19. felloveranddidanadu

    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Dec 12, 2009
    Club:
    San Jose Frogs
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What a bizarre thing for Venezia to agree to.

    "Hey unproven/lightly proven kid...we'll pay 6 mil for you and if you don't help us stay up you can go elsewhere next year. Then, without your help, if we make it up you can play with us again in the big leagues. If not you can walk out again for another year, no questions asked."

    Am I reading that right? How many years was his contract again? If it's 3 they're insane. If it's 4 or 5 they're also insane.
     
  20. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Maybe Niederauer is a friend of Gianluca's family in Brescia. After all, he lives there (an hour drive from Venezia).

    Although those people don't really live anywhere, with all the real estate they got.
     
  21. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lots of interest:

     
  22. m vann

    m vann Moderator
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    Colorado Rapids, Celtic FC, & Louisville City
    Sep 10, 2002
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Celtic FC
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    United States
    The Empoli link makes sense. They are managed by Paolo Zanetti who signed Busio before being sacked by Venezia in April.
     
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  23. golazo68

    golazo68 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 21, 2004
    Brazil
    I actually prefer Ajax. It would be great for his development, and he’d get plenty of good games. He’s be in as big a shop window as there is- maybe even more than some of those Italian clubs.

    Italy is tough gig no matter where and Incould see a lot go potentially wrong there
     
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  24. ChambersWI

    ChambersWI Member+

    Nov 10, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Sassoulo has proven to be a great place for young players to develop so that would be my preferred destination for Busio... now they don't always do well once they leave Sassoulo but that's a good clue to develop at
     
  25. Ray Shoesmith

    Ray Shoesmith Member+

    Valencia
    United States
    Nov 14, 2021
    Fun team to watch. Sassoulo and Atalanta are trying to completely destroy the old Calcio stereotypes.
     

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