Getting 'em Early: Dual National Baby Watch

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by BostonRed, Jul 20, 2014.

  1. mike4066

    mike4066 Member+

    Jun 30, 2007
    Chula Vista, CA
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Might they be eligible for England if they were born there? Is that why they would be dual?
     
  2. mike4066

    mike4066 Member+

    Jun 30, 2007
    Chula Vista, CA
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have a feeling he would be born the US.

    Tim and his wife were married in Vegas back in 2010. Something tells me they don't mind it here.
     
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  3. ChuckMe92

    ChuckMe92 Member+

    Jun 23, 2016
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was initially thinking due to Dempsey's Irish heritage, but it looks like it was his paternal grandparents who were Irish immigrants, so now I don't think the kids can play for Ireland. If Dempsey's parent(s) were Irish, then his kids would've been eligible for Ireland.

    It is certainly true that Dempsey was playing in England when his first son was born. Whether his son was born in England is another question, but you bring up a good point.
     
  4. ChuckMe92

    ChuckMe92 Member+

    Jun 23, 2016
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Brad Guzan's son was born last year in England when he was with Aston Villa, in case England is potentially looking to poach a goalkeeper 20+ years from now. It looks like Brad's wife might be English as well. (I just thought of this when mike4066 mentioned the possibility of Dempsey's sons being eligible for England.)
     
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  5. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It may be possible for his children to be Irish citizen, but it would take some legwork and probably would have required Clint to register as an Irish citizen before their births.

    http://www.citizensinformation.ie/e...ish_citizenship_through_birth_or_descent.html

    British citizenship is a bit more complicated and would require that the parents are "settled" in the UK:
    • "Settled" status usually means the parent is resident in the UK and has the right of abode, or holds Indefinite Leave to Remain (ILR), or is the citizen of an EU/EEA country and has permanent residence, or otherwise unrestricted by immigration laws to remain in the UK.[4] Irish citizens in the UK are deemed settled for this purpose.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_nationality_law

    It sounds like you have to have a more definite plan to stay rather than simply be there on a work permit, but these things are rather complicated and subject to a lot of interpretation and administrative rules.
     
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  6. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Folks that have lives may not be paying attention to the FC Dallas youth teams.

    Jesus Ferreira, son of former MLS MVP David Ferreira, is tearing up the development academy. 10 goals in the last 3 games at the GenAd Cup.

    He wasn't born in the US, but has expressed an interest in representing the USMNT. We haven't gotten a citizenship timeline for him recently, but its apparently "close."
     
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  7. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
    Do you know how old he was when he moved to the U.S.?
     
  8. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    See page 2. Father got green card in 2012.
     
  9. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
    Yeah, and I see that his father arrived at Dallas in 2009, which would have made Jesus 8 at the time.
     
  10. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #135 BostonRed, Nov 3, 2016
    Last edited: Nov 3, 2016
    Javier Morales' son was born in the US while at RSL:
     
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  11. soccerusa517

    soccerusa517 Member+

    Jun 23, 2009
    Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  12. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Big news on the dual-national front last night while you were sleeping. Jesus is the son of former MLS MVP David Ferreira. He's one of the best players in the Development Academy.


     
  13. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Ramiro Funes Mori of Argentina/Everton raising his son right! Folks will remember that Ramiro (and his brother Rogelio) spent time at the FCD academy. He's married to Mauro Diaz' sister. I don't know if this little guy is US-eligible, but we'll do detective work when the time comes.......................
     
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  14. Alexisonfire

    Alexisonfire Member

    Jun 30, 2009
    NorCal
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  15. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  16. AutoPenalti

    AutoPenalti Am I famous yet?

    Sep 26, 2011
    Coconut Creek
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Omg
     
  17. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  18. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
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  19. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    If he is even half as good as his Dad we have ourselves a fantastic player for the future.
    One can only hope.
     
  20. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    There are so many good attacking talents in that U17 team (Sargent, Carleton, Akinola, etc.) that Weah seems to get lost in the shuffle. He's never really "stood out" to me. But these are youngsters, and he has the potential to blossom. We've seen highlights of some nice performances for PSG youth, although I've never seen him play a 90 minute game for them.
     
  21. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    I prefer him to Akinola quite easily. Better feet, better finisher. He's been passed by Sargent, and isn't even close to Carleton's level.

    He looked really good when I watched him play for PSG. I don't know why he doesn't perform for the USA.
     
  22. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  23. Midas Mulligan

    Midas Mulligan Member+

    Jul 24, 2013
    NYC
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ankle breaker's ankle biter.
     
  24. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Juan Carlos Osorio, a former Colombian pro and head coach of Mexico, lived in the US for a long time and has US-born sons:

    Having said that, I would consider coming back to MLS not just for the reason that I mentioned, but because my two boys were born in Queens, N.Y. If they decided to come to university or play sports here, I would like to be with them.

    http://www.ajc.com/sports/pro-sport...ains-his-comments-mls/ALXerWapHbGvopOrNMBRcL/
     
  25. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There is no citizenship birthright in the UK.
     

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