Germany's Quest to Not Embarrass Itself, the WC26+NL24-25 Thread

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by Ger90, May 21, 2024.

  1. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    I don't think Füllkrug will get a look in beyond wild card off the bench

    Woltemade brings the big guy factor, and others have the mobility that JN likes
     
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  2. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    WOW, blessing in disguise, Amiri OUT, Ouedraogo IN!!!



     
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  3. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Julian Nagelsmann on...
    ... his squad: We need a good balance within the team. We want to have every position covered by two players, so the structure has to be right. We are convinced that we have the right players to get six points in the two games and qualify for the World Cup. That's the most important thing.

    ... the current situation in the group: We are not dependent on other results, only on our own performance. After the poor start, we have created a decent starting position in the group. We now have to continue to build on that. The players have had a very intense period with many games under their belts. We want to work our way into the games through collective defending, but compared to the October matches, we also need to be more dangerous offensively.

    ... Said El Mala and other youngsters: I'm not a big fan of hyping and pushing players too early. But I do want to have open communication with the players. El Mala isn't an established international player, but he now has the chance to show what he can do in training, because it's incredibly difficult to evaluate players solely based on scouting. There are also other players who could be interesting for us, such as Lennart Karl, Assan Ouedraogo, or Nicolo Tresoldi. It's primarily about different profiles, of which we don't have too many in the team at the moment. Lennart is doing well at Bayern, but he should first prove himself with the U21 team and ideally play a key role there.

    ... the return of Leroy Sané: Leroy is getting a chance to show what he can do. We don't have many classic wingers right now. We are in good communication. I'm not yet 100 percent satisfied with him. He knows what is required and that there won't be many more chances to prove himself in the national team under my leadership. He has everything; he just has to deliver on the pitch. He knows that himself. He still has steps to take – here and at his club.

    ... the non-selection of Angelo Stiller: His development has been going in the right direction again in the past few weeks. I also conveyed that message to him. But it's about balance. I currently see Felix Nmecha and Aleksandar Pavlovic slightly ahead in the defensive midfield position. In the last training camp, I had five defensive midfielders, and three of them didn't even play a minute – including Stiller. Now our structure is a little different. Nmecha and Pavlovic are having strong seasons as key players for their clubs. Angelo can now catch his breath and continue to show his improving form on the pitch. The door isn't closed for him.

    ... on Nico Schlotterbeck's injury from the HSV game: "Schlotti's" foot swelled up overnight. It doesn't look ideal, we have to wait and see how it develops over the course of the week.

    ... on Malick Thiaw's nomination: Malick has stabilized and is doing very well as a regular starter at Newcastle. He hadn't been with us for a long time, partly because he had played very little for half a year in Milan before that. He deserves to be back.

    ... on his left-backs: It's similar here to the defensive midfield position. Maximilian Mittelstädt has stabilized again at Stuttgart, but we have no reason to change anything. David Raum is doing very well; his type of player is very good for us. He's like chewing gum in the group, he has a good rapport with everyone. The captaincy in Leipzig is doing him a lot of good, so he's also taking on more responsibility with us now. Nene Brown has just made a big step forward defensively.

    ... on the defeat in Slovakia: Our game was very slow and sluggish. We did a lot to help Slovakia get into the game and little to turn the game around ourselves. The approach now has to be completely different than in Slovakia. We know that they can play football and cause us problems if we don't give it our all. We can't afford any more slip-ups; we've already had one. We have to win both games and mustn't underestimate either opponent or take the games lightly.
     
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  4. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Frankfurt's Krosche has stated that
    -he sees big potential in $$$ in Collins, Brown, Burkardt, Koch. Seems to think all should be in SNT
    -on 03 LB Brown
    When asked by 'Bild' whether a transfer fee of 65 million euros, like the one paid for Marc Cucurella (27/Chelsea), who, like Brown, is also a left-back, is realistic, Krösche replied: "Yes. Because he has three exceptional qualities that you can't learn: He's intelligent and has great game awareness, he has excellent technique, and he's very fast."

    The Eintracht sporting director is enthusiastic about the 22-year-old's qualities: "He has developed outstandingly, especially in terms of defending at a high level. Just look at how he plays against top opponents in the Champions League."
     
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  5. GermanLebaneseFan

    Nov 9, 2012
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nagelsmann mentioned Tresoldi so it seems he is keeping an eye on him especially that he has triple nationalities. I think he also mentioned Lemperle before so it seems a lot can still happen in the offensive lineup. Though I am not a big fan of selecting a player who is not playing in the top 4 leagues , but maybe Nagelsmann is mentioning Tresoldi to avoid losing him to Italy in particular especially that hs is supposed to move to a better league next summer.
     
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  6. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    nobody would be mentioning Tresoldi if he wasn't playing in CL though. I feel like Argentina is his 3rd choice though and as of now no indication from them in terms of interest. Seems more Germany vs Italy. I really hope that we can manage to perm cap Tresoldi, Weiper, Ansah, Pejcinovic in next 2-3 years though.

    for Tresoldi I really hope he goes 1BL and resists his Milan temptation. Would be easier to keep if he's in 1BL.
     
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  7. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Nagelsmann recently
    -Media, Nagelsmann should call up El Mala, Ouedraogo, Karl
    -Nagelsmann goes
    [​IMG]

    -Nagelsmann folds for 1/3, due to profile of player. A player who is tall/physical, fast, aggressive, dribbles, goes in solo, can cut in etc.
    -then makes excuses to not include the other 2
    -things didn't go as planned and now 2/3 called up
    [​IMG]

    -now admits if Karl keeps it up, he could get WC26 call up.
    National team coach Julian Nagelsmann (38) will certainly be watching from afar. The former Bayern coach has long had Karl on his radar with an eye on the 2026 World Cup: “Generally, there are a few young players who are talented and who could be interesting for us with regard to the World Cup, including Lennart Karl.”


    -Germany fans laughing that Bagelsmann is being forced more and more towards next gen players. Something he's RELUCTANT towards. He's even more RELUCTANT towards idea of youth revolution. But more make the SNT the closer it is to happening.
     
  8. Serengeti_Boy

    Serengeti_Boy Member+

    Sep 15, 2009
    Serengeti, East Africa
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Tanzania
    So maybe he isn't the Ansah yet to the German forward question.
     
  9. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    I think it's a bit unfair to say he is hostile to youth revolution - his core side will be quite young with Musiala and Wirtz

    He's looking for balance. He successfully achieved that for the euros but now more guys aged out.

    It's not unrealistic to think Sane, Kimmich, Goretzka, Havertz, Rudiger should be the experienced core.

    The problem is all the injury and form problems with those guys. For me the questionable one is Stiller, but maybe things just didn't go well in camp last time, and he is giving Stiller a message he has to do a bit better.

    Sane makes sense to have a last look as we don't have an option like him.

    The one I question is Goretzka as I think the team has simply been much better without him and Kimmich and right back.
     
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  10. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    naw he's hostile to it.

    I've been following this clown since his debut as a coach and he's integrated like 2 players in his career and makes a SHIT TON of excuses to avoid integrating more because he has no interest in it. He always wants transfers and prioritizes age and experience.

    Nagelsmann is INFAMOUS for his BS of
    training>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Game time

    he thinks training is more important than playing. That's a load of crock, LOL.

    and even now when he mentions young players he's back to his training fixation over anything.

    he 100% doesn't want to play young players, its just that he's being forced too.
     
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  11. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
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    FC Bayern München
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    Germany
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  12. saj7866

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    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Honestly. I'd integrate all the talented youngsters for the world cup.

    Selection should be based on club form. And at the moment the young ballers are performing admirably for their respective clubs.

    I say, select them. They will have nothing to lose, and gain valuable experience.
     
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  13. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
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    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Stiller is being linked with Man Utd in January apparently
     
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  14. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    am I the only one who thinks he's a better La Liga fit than EPL???

    but what can you do every German player these days is obsessive fixated on EPL even when they aren't suited for EPL.

    even Wirtz for me, he was always a better fit for La Liga.
     
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  15. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    The thing is he did pick Stiller, then had to yank him

    Not saying it was all Stillers fault but we don't really know what went on there
     
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  16. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Having listened to a tactical analysis of liverpool, i am not worried about Wirtz

    Their problems start at the back, and lack of progression - it is going to take some months to figure out
     
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  17. Dage

    Dage Moderator
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    Jun 4, 2008
    Berlin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Wirtz could've been the next Iniesta.
     
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  18. saj7866

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    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Completely agree. La Liga is a better fit. The EPL has become Very Physical. Majority of the teams have instilled philosophys that are suited to being physical, fast, and determined.

    If Stiller want to.move then Spain is his best bet.
     
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  19. saj7866

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    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Stiller has performed admirably for Stuttgart. Surely that's the basis for Selection.

    But to select Goretzka ahead of him, I find Nagelsmanns thought process as delusional
     
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  20. BVBFNM

    BVBFNM Member+

    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Please do not insult Wirtz by likening him to someone so despicable.
     
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  21. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    the only Spanish player I ever liked was Raul that's it, LOL.

    the rest of their so called Golden Gen are just a bunch of obnoxious arrogant unlikeable douchebags, LOL.

    curious what is it about Spain and Argentina where one feels like they have TONS of A-Holes types???
     
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  22. saj7866

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    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
     
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  23. BVBFNM

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    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Same here, Raul is the only Spanish player I genuinely like.

    As for Spain's so-called Golden Generation, the only player I don't really have any beef with is Carles Puyol, because he's the only one who doesn't give off any douchebag vibes.
     
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  24. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Puyol hard to forgive the guy who ended the 2010 WC Young Revolution SF run with his goal in SF and 1-0 winner.

    but the epitome of Spanish vile piece of crap will forever be Sergio Ramos what a POS of a player.
     
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  25. saj7866

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    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    That was truly heartbreaking. I Genuinely thought we were winning the world cup, after we smashed Argies and England. But then, for Some effing reason Loew xxat himself and we went negative against the Spanish! Hated that Spanish side. To many cheating scumbags
     
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