Germany's Quest to Not Embarrass Itself, the WC26+NL24-25 Thread

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by Ger90, May 21, 2024.

  1. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    No one can get close to fussballgott Davie Selke ;)
     
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  2. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Was a very nice finish as well. Newcastle fans already saying they underpaid lol.
     
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  3. BandB

    BandB Member

    Bayern Munich
    Germany
    Nov 30, 2020
    Rudiger, he's a good club player won UCL and The Prem all that. But when Rudiger played for German either WC or Euro, he was monstrous. His clearance is bad either hit or missed, always too advance for the last man defender. For his age, you're expecting a well experience, calmness in his game but sadly it never show in German's jersey.

    Time to put Malick Thiaw on..
     
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  4. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    best player to NEVER play Germany SNT.

    how lucky are the rival countries??? We are giving every country a relief not using him!!!!
     
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  5. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    CF Burkardt after a slow start to season after his transfer to bigger club Frankfurt!!! Also playing his 1st EVER season in CL or European footy too. A Fit Burkardt almost always hits double digits in 1BL too, looks on track for another such season too.
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  6. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Wirtz was brilliant when he come on today. Cant believe that Clown Slot dropped him to the bench.
     
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  7. BVBFNM

    BVBFNM Member+

    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    I'm afraid the price tag is putting a lot of pressure on Wirtz to perform with Liverpool.
     
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  8. Dage

    Dage Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 4, 2008
    Berlin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Nah.. it's a disfunctional team and the attention is turning on Slot.
     
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  9. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    curious to see
    -is 00 CF Burkardt the 2nd best 00 CF in Europe??? Of course #1 is Haaland.
    reality a fit Burkardt always bags double digits in 1BL and already performing in CL in his 1st season there.

    Vlahovic used to be seen as 2nd best 00 CF in Europe but has been downtrending and where back to back seasons, Burkardt is doing better than him too.

    Alvarez seems to be doing well in La Liga but as a 1.7m tall shrimp and playing 2 man upfront, that does take away pts from him tbh.

    Kean is downtrending. David FINALLY left Ligue 1 and went Serie A where he hasn't done anything. Players like Raspodori, Ruiz, Boniface, Gouiri etc doing absolutely nothing too.


    -looking like 02 CF Woltemade is legit contender for best 02 CF in Europe too. There are no 02s who are performing in top 4 league like Woltemade. Closest is Ekitike of France also in EPL, who has more games than Woltemade, LOL. Another 02 CF who is performing is German dev but Kosovo poached Asllani who plays for 1BL Hoffenheim, so that's like 2/3 are German dev, LOL. Its NOT surprising though as Woltemade won U21 Euro Golden Boot for 02-03 Age Groups and I've mentioned numerous times in past that rival countries's 02-03 CFs are mostly weak not that strong. Its funny that I got shit for stating that like 2 years ago and now these things are showing that more and more. Like one sees countries like Spain and Italy having more promising CFs in younger age groups than 02-03s.


    what's funny is how everyone claims that Germany can't dev CFs, LOL. But more funny is how the claim that Germany's 01 CFs are complete and utter shit, soooooooooooo bad but yet one doesn't see much of any 01 CFs from any country doing anything, LOL. Seems like 01 Age Group for CFs is a weak one ALLROUND.
     
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  10. BorisG

    BorisG Member+

    Sep 30, 2009
    Namibia
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Nice we have Woktemade and Burkhardt performing well , Kleindienst and Havertz to make a return

    believe Fulkrugs time is over , pity he had so many injuries … his time was short and effective for the NT but he just has to many injuries .
     
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  11. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Agreed. Not sure how long he can get away with not playing Wirtz.
     
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  12. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    this is why i am glad he took the big payday in England.

    he’s 32.5 and was always facing steep decline from here on out.
     
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  13. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    The thing at Liverpool last season is the midfield 3 were relied on to defend and destruct. Trent was the key playmaker.

    Wirtz represents a big stylistic shift that doesn’t fit with how they played last year and now Slot doesn’t seem sure whether to move forward or go back.

    Buying Wirtz and Isak suggests a stylistic change based around Wirtz and a proper 9
     
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  14. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    the timeframe of usage for Fullkrug was WC22-EC24, 2 tourneys is still a LOT. But due to Flick+Nagelsmann being both idiots we wasted that timeframe for nothing. Imagine even when he led a club like BVB who make a CL final like once every 10+ years he still gets shafted to bench even then.

    Fullkrug has to be one of the most efficient SNT player like we've ever seen. And he did that with barely any usage too.

    but yeah due to constant injury issues, his NT career is sadly done.

    I think Kleindienst, Woltemade, Burkardt is not too bad for main options with Havertz getting used at AM/W and in case of need at CF.
     
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  15. BVBFNM

    BVBFNM Member+

    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Füllkrug was hard done by Flick and Nagelsmann, particularly with their insistence on "world-class striker or bust", and in their dogmatic view a false 9 was preferable to a proper CF, even if said CF wasn't world class.

    The end result? A completely sterile attack.
     
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  16. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    imagine how effective Fullkrug was and add to the fact that he emerged while Germany were playing like shit.

    how productive would Fullkrug have been with a peak Germany???

    his #s would be off the charts, LOL.

    the weird aspect about the Fullkrug story is
    -Flick=bitching NON-STOP about CFs, he calls one just for him to be on bench. And then as I called it, he was going to scapegoat WC22 GS OUT on usual DFB of 0 CFs and he did that, LMAO.
    -Nagelsmann=seems to have overexaggerated demands on Fullkrug but had no issues with Kleindienst+Undav playing in lesser clubs than him. Like why was he so hard on him? Even threatening to stop calling him up if he doesn't go to EPL....like WTF.....

    its clear that Nagelsmann rates EPL more than 1BL too but why leeway towards Kleindienst/Undav????


    but yeah issue is that Germany NEVER EVER looks good without CFs. The WHOLE attack becomes sterile and we end up with whole 1 million chances and 0-1 goals scored. Like the AM/W of Germany are ones who CANNOT function without a CF. That's why False 9 never works either.

    we also NEVER EVER needed world class CF. Just need somebody who fits the style of play and that's it.
     
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  17. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
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  18. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    U21 v other U21 isn't that beneficial imo, better to play v senior pros. The main issue is too many BL coaches seem reluctant to trust their own youth, and when they do they seem less tolerant of mistakes then with older players.

    At least one good thing about Wirtz and Woltemade going for such big money to the EPL might make clubs realise you can make big profits from German talents too, not just sign develop and sell French, English etc talents.
     
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  19. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    why does anyone think that EPL2 aka a U21 league is beneficial? Yup its issue of just being more youth crap.

    that doesn't make sense though, how does a U21 league not stagnate players??? And the only players who risk stagnating badly are the ones from Leipzig, Bayer etc ones with no II team.

    if it was beneficial you wouldn't see TONS of players ending up on Championship-League One-League Two loaning.

    there is 0 need for any League Two Loan from German footy perspective as the II teams play in RL which is 4th division and they can only go upwards from there. And there are 2 1BL IIs in 3rd Liga too.

    I find it bizarre how so many people involved in German footy, seems to prefer a U21 league over RL/4th division. In RL you play vs adult players and some even have 2BL-3rd Liga level experience too vs U21 league nothing but other kids.

    the youth need to play vs adults for their dev, not other kids.

    also, a SHIT TON of 1BL-2BL coaches put down RL as gap is HUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE jump. Imagine how they would act from a U21 league to 1BL-2BL, LMAO, would be MORE EXCUSES to NOT INTEGRATE.
     
  20. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Felix Nmecha is a serious Talent. We lack Physicality in the CM area. He has all the attributes of a Top player.
     
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  21. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    naw, we need Andrich, Gross, Goretzka to play until 40 y/o.

    Lets go Nagelsmann give us the most ANCIENT M you can muster!!!!
     
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  22. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    What a wonder strike from Karl! Exceptional Goal.
     
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  23. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Karl looking like Messi with his dribbling.
     
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  24. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    that's a confusing statement.

    Karl looks like Messi who looks like Draxler. Does that mean Karl looks like Draxler???

    Karl overdribbles my friend, he needs to master Draxler's world class backpassing skills.
     
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  25. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Haha yeah, under most DFB youth coaches Karl would be benched immediately for all that dribbling nonsense.
     
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