Germany's Quest to Not Embarrass Itself, the WC26+NL24-25 Thread

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  1. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
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  2. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Yep. Just like under Flick pre-22 there has been far too much tinkering. We need stability now.
     
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  3. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
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  4. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    For me Stiller Pavlovic double Pivot. Goretzka should be going off the bench.
     
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  5. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    how dare Raum score direct FK..........should have been Kimmich!!!!:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
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  6. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Surely Woltemade should have taken the Penalty. Let the Guy stamp his authority!
    Kimmich. Jack of all Trades. Master of None!
     
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  7. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Northern Ireland takes the 1-0 lead vs Slovakia.

    as things stand, Germany is toping the group.
     
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  8. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    LB Brown is now PERM capped tied by Germany!!!!!

    Welcome to the best team in the world!!!


    Northern Ireland now 2-0, so as we closing in on end, we are topping the group!!!!
     
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  9. andydippy

    andydippy Member

    Oct 11, 2015
    Club:
    Kilmarnock FC
    #2134 andydippy, Oct 10, 2025
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    Why does everyone constantly slag Kimmich off on here?
    Why is he master of none.
    If he is so shit Why constantly beg he is the starting right back!!
    Seems to be one of the first names on the team sheet for every german and bayern coach!!
     
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  10. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    because he's SHIT at M 100% for Germany. He's the German captain but nothing but a pathetic crybaby too. LOL who recalls when he said that he feels like a HUGE failure because the NT crashed and burned around the time he arrived........because its true, LMAO. Him and the 90s born players are the MAIN reasons for the downtrend.

    he also is a clown too. He was part of the whinners about the Alphabet Mafia at WC22 but later on admitted that it was a BIG mistake and that the should NEVER have made a HUGE POLITICAL fuss about it aka regrets it.

    because he 100% does NOT want to play RB. He'll publicly say he doesn't care but its been said numerous times that privately he WANTS to play M over RB. Never seems like the type that will do what's best for the team either.

    Kimmich is epitome of everything wrong with current SNT. He's the poster boy for it, LMAO. I ain't gonna miss him when he retires, already 30 y/o too.
     
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  11. BandB

    BandB Member

    Bayern Munich
    Germany
    Nov 30, 2020
    Kimmich is a world class player but in his generation post WC 14, there is not much outstanding German players, only recent emerging aka Musiala and Wirtz so all pressure pretty much on him.

    In fact, Kimmich is ranked first in assist for this German team and mostly by playing RB position

    It’s the coach mistake. Player will play follow coach’s instruction.
     
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  12. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I don't think its coach mistake as he himself wants to play M over RB. Also 3 back to back coaches in NT trying to force him at M, LULZ.

    world class is irrelevant, WC02 was trashed to the moon by everyone and that lot were nowhere near as bad as current Germany with lesser talent too. Like no reason why current Germany isn't playing well.

    I 100% remember when everyone was like only world class players are Kahn+Ballack that's it and the rest of the team was SHAT on HARD.

    as loads of people have mentioned the France W with Voller should have been the emulating point but Nagelsmann isn't doing that.

    how is all pressure on him???? When he plays M, Kimmich PUTS PRESSURE ON THE REST OF THE TEAM.......

    Kimmich is also GARBAGE at FKs and Corners. Its funny at how he crosses well and has fantastic throughballs when he plays at RB.

    its like Kimmich can cross when in play/motion but when the ball is standing on the ground like FKs/corners he's 100% useless. He's also useless in ball in motion when it comes from playing from M.

    his only use is at RB, when Bayern won CL, he was playing RB entire run too. He also assisted the winning goal in final from a fantastic cross as well.

    but he's a freak who wants to play M because he thinks he's talented and that he wants more of the ball. Ironic since he has like 0 good M games for Germany. He's just an arrogant egomaniac player, LOL. But in a more nefarious way as his arrogannce/egomania isn't public one.

    "In fact, Kimmich is ranked first in assist for this German team and mostly by playing RB position."

    THIS is something some of us have been saying for AGES. That Kimmich at RB gets heavily involved in the attack and creates more chances for the team, more so than any other RB option we try but he doesn't want to play there.

    his only issue at RB was WC18 where he advanced way way way too much and left the D exposed to counters. He's reigned himself in more these days so is more reliable in both A and D.

    that's also his issue at M for Germany, he advances too much leaving entire D exposed. At least he reigns himself when playing at RB.
     
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  13. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    in all honesty, I don't see Kimmich as world class.

    world class at what?
    -he's terrible M
    -and he's a good RB but not a world class one.

    you ain't world class if you aren't one of the best in your position in the world. Its why I agree that he's master of none. Even more so since he himself doesn't want to play RB, sees himself as a M. Believe his issue is that he USED to be a M before being forced at RB.

    Germany has way way way too many players who play all over and due to this, they don't really master any position. Like EVERY single German player is excessively flexible and playable in too many positions that they end up not mastering any position.

    in all honestly, I've never in my life cared about world class topic.....who cares. A functioning team is more important. And that is something outside of EC24 we haven't seen since EC16. But issue is that we have gone backwards post EC24, LOL.

    If Nagelsmann doesn't get it together we could flop another tourney. Needs to stop playing around and have a more fixed XI.
     
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  14. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Ok it was Luxembourg. But it's imperative we have a fully fit Pavlovic available. He brings calmness and Quality to the CM position. ( junior Kroos).

    Even Though Goretzka did no wrong. For me a double pivot of Pavlovic - Stiller is our best Combo.

    Wirtz was very unlucky not to score. Some of his skills were sublime. Just needs that little bit of luck to go his way.

    Still fuming why Woltemade did not take the Penalty. Kane, Mbappe, Haaland all have The Goalscoring Responsibility. And I see Penalties in that category of Goal scoring.
     
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  15. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    LOL

    Julian Nagelsmann on whether Joshua Kimmich will continue at right-back or return to midfield: "I don't want to commit to either. I've committed in the past, but now it's time to take a step back. With the ball, he's playing exactly the same position he plays with the ball at Bayern. Josh consistently plays well in several positions. We'll see on Monday where he's needed most."
     
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  16. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Kimmich Got something on Majority of the German coaches.

    He plays where ever he wants

    He takes corners, free kicks

    Takes Penalties

    :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
     
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  17. BVBFNM

    BVBFNM Member+

    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nagelsmann's statement exasperates me. Kimmich works best as a RB.

    STOP CATERING TO HIS FVCKING WHIMS!
     
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  18. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I think 2 things NOBODY here wants to see, LOL.
    1-Kimmich at M
    2-Havertz at CF

    yet there is a fixation for both by DFB, LMAO. Issue is NOT Kimmich or Havertz. Kimmich is our best RB and Havertz ALWAYS performs when he plays off a CF rather than being the CF himself.
     
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  19. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    yup 0 XI consistency, LOL.
     
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  20. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Unchanged XI is good, although I would prefer Stiller or Nmecha instead of Goretzka.

    I feel like if we win this match we should top the group, but honestly I'm not overly confident , we still seem fragile. Need to build some momentum.
     
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  21. BorisG

    BorisG Member+

    Sep 30, 2009
    Namibia
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Well if Nagelsmann still can’t see that kimmich is most needed and has the greatest impact on our game at RB then he is an absolute twit.

    Enough said …. Our back 4 needs to play now until the World Cup
     
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  22. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    midfield will obviously change once Musiala and Havertz return. I think together with Wirtz they will be the core of the side. Personally i believe Musiala will be the main central playmaker.
     
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  23. dips82

    dips82 Member+

    Oct 11, 2013
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    After Wirtz’s unimpressive start in the premier league, Musiala indeed needed for central spot in the team.
     
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  24. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Agree. We lack the aura of a formidable side. That's only Gained with consistency in selection and Results. I will give benefit of Doubt to Nagelsmann on this. Injuries has curtailed him from selecting his best side. Hopefully we can get everyone fit for November and March Games and Play our best Team.
     
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  25. BorisG

    BorisG Member+

    Sep 30, 2009
    Namibia
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    mhhh yes until next match when he forgot all about his september loss ... and moves Kimmich back to DM .......
    Kimmich has had some of his best games now at RB .....

    Some players like Mittelstad , Bischof and Gross still think they have place in the NT.

    yes will be intresting to see when Musiala, Havertz and Kelindiesnt return - UNDAV also still there ....
     
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