Germany's Quest to Not Embarrass Itself, the WC26+NL24-25 Thread

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by Ger90, May 21, 2024.

  1. Brandko

    Brandko Member+

    Dec 12, 2013
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  2. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    BVB is now turning their attention on buying Beier from Hoffenheim.
    https://www.ligainsider.de/maximili...rtmund-nimmt-spur-zu-beier-wieder-auf-360721/

    although has tons of interest from Serie A, La Liga, EPL and even 1BL clubs like Bayer too.

    find it weird how BVB can go after Beier playing his 1st ever 1BL season last season but can't even integrate properly Moukoko.

    LOL typical German BS of we screw our own players while always eyeing and making more of an effort towards players not owned by us mentality.
     
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  3. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    but didn’t he turn out to be much older than thought?

    which means his development curve is way different than thought.
     
  4. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    There has been speculation in the press (always denied by the players camp) but nothing officially or legally and the club has always maintained that they believe his age to be correct.

    Will be interesting if this topic emerges again now in the event of a transfer abroad, as obviously his documents will need to be ratified as accurate when signing contracts etc.
     
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  5. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Where are the upcoming German coaches.

    With Vincent Company in charge at Bayern
    And Sahin at Dortmund, for me it's a crying shame with the lack of quality elite German managers.
     
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  6. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Well obviously Nagelsmann is still young, Sebastian Hoeneß (still pretty young) has done a fantastic job with Stuttgart plus Fabian Hürzeler is highly rated, won the 2BL title at just 31 with St Pauli and just gone to the EPL with Brighton. We also have Miro Klose now coaching Nürnberg who will be interesting to watch. Many feel Sandro Wagner will go on to be a head coach somewhere soon, he seems highly regarded. There are a few others as well, I don't think we'll have any problem on that front.
     
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  7. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    errr Sahin is german?
     
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  8. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Talking of German coaches, will be interesting to see how Flick does at Barca, if he can win or at least closely challenge for the La Liga title and/or have a deep CL run then his reputation will increase again. Tuchel will also likely get another big job again soon, most likely in the EPL. Terzic having made a CL final will most likely not be short of top 4 league offers either.
     
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  9. BVBFNM

    BVBFNM Member+

    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Sahin is born and raised in Germany, sadly poached by Turkey.
     
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  10. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    He's a German citizen. Everything else is completely irrelevant to the discussion of where are the upcoming German coaches at.
     
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  11. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    he's only poached in sense of NT as a player but he's a German trained coach too.

    same goes for Niko Kovac who played for Croatia but born, raised, dev by Germany.

    you can poach players to play for your NT but you can't poach them beyond that at end of day, they will always be duals.
     
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  12. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Gegenpressing had some coverage of the Fülle move.

    West Ham offered BVB insane money for a 31 year old, which they are spinning into two much younger players - especially Beier who is 10 years younger lol

    So not without risk for BVB, but you can see why it makes a lot of sense for them to land a guy who will potentially be Germany's 9 going forward, at a very young age - and they can hold on to him for 4+ years

    It is a very dumb contract by West Ham, when you consider Fülle is likely to go into decline in the next 12-24 months

    So I do get the logic of this for BVB, but not West Ham
     
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  13. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany


    Good to see Undav move made permanent. Will play CL with Stuttgart.
     
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  14. Shwass5555

    Shwass5555 Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Nov 21, 2022

    That salary was renegotiated a while back. Soap opera at the time with a lot bullshit from his manager specifically.
     
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  15. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Intresting to see Vincent Company using Kimmich in a Double pivot with Pavlovic which could be a issue for the National team if this persists with Bayern. For me kimmich is better suited at RB
     
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  16. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Groß is a really smart signing for Dortmund, already showing his worth (admittedly v lower league opponents) but no reason despite his age why he can't continue to be a useful NT player imo.
     
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  17. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
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  18. BVBFNM

    BVBFNM Member+

    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Does İlkay Gündoğan hold the shortest stint as NT captain, the great Julian Draxler notwithstanding?
     
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  19. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    one of my fav players at City and especially his pre injury days at BVB

    shame he was so often injured in terms of his national career.
     
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  20. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Yep. He was simply briliant in a brilliant city side. Just a pity injuries curtailed his international career, but the time is right for him to move on.
     
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  21. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I wonder who the new captain will be? Most likely Kimmich I guess, although I'm not sure if he has the right mindset.
     
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  22. BVBFNM

    BVBFNM Member+

    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Hard NO on Kimmich.
     
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  23. MatthausSammer

    MatthausSammer Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I would like to see Rudiger become captain, personally.
     
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  24. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany


    would be terrible choice.
    -LOL few years ago was crying about how the NT failure hit him mentally and that he thought that he was one of the reasons for failure...........cough he's right cough.
    -he whines and bitches too much

    in all honestly I feel like there is 0 leadership in this team. If we have X or Y as captain its makes no difference and as if we are playing without one, LOL.

    for me the last REAL captain was Ballack.

    Lahm for me I didn't really see captain, felt like an invisible captain, one that has no presence and that I always forgot was captain. Plus his shitty attitude and lack of respect when taking the captaincy from Ballack is more reason why I don't see him as worthy.
     
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  25. BVBFNM

    BVBFNM Member+

    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Many argued that Schweinsteiger was the real captain during that time period.
     
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