Germany's Quest to Not Embarrass Itself, the WC26+NL24-25 Thread

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by Ger90, May 21, 2024.

  1. dips82

    dips82 Member+

    Oct 11, 2013
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    “Havertz can be part of the build up” - can be doesn’t work anymore. He has played enough and done nothing. He could but he doesn’t need to contribute in build up, we have Musiala, Wirtz etc for that.
    Comparing Fullkrug with Kuranyi is an insult to Fullkrug.
    As one of the website said after the Spain match, if Havertz doesn’t play a single minute for Germany ever, nobody will miss him.
     
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  2. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
     
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  3. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    good if he benches Havertz, LOL.:whistling::whistling::whistling:

    but with Beier, Woltemade, Topp, Moukoko, Tresoldi, Weiper, Pejcinovic, Brunner, Moerstedt all of them could make themselves contenders for WC26.

    but I sense a Hoffenheim bias from Nagelsmann.;)
     
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  4. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany


    Meh, surely he should look for a move to a CL club if he leaves Dortmund.
     
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  5. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    :mad::mad::mad::mad:
     
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  6. BVBFNM

    BVBFNM Member+

    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Disappointed in Füllkrug for not seeking a club that's playing CL football.
     
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  7. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Who says he didn't? Depending on when he got word of what Dortmund would be trying to play like this season, he may have had to scramble for a move after realistic CL options had already brought in other players.
     
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  8. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    not surprised he’d look to max out a fat EPL contract late in his career.
     
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  9. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    according to Gegenpressing pod bayern might be looking to offload Sane to the EPL
     
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  10. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    confirmation that Nagelsmann is a clown and also what I've been saying for awhile he rates EPL more than 1BL. But what's stupid on his part is that he would rather he play EPL then CL......:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

    in what world is a mid-table EPL club with no Europe better than a top 1BL club with CL......
     
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  11. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    from Pletti, what a dumb coaching team.
    Niclas Füllkrug has already sought advice from the DFB coaching team, including Julian Nagelsmann, Sandro Wagner and Benjamin Glück.

    They recommended him the move to West Ham, noting that playing regularly in the Premier League would increase his chances of being one of Germany's strikers at the 2026 World Cup!



    so if he plays at BVB in CL, his chances to make WC26 are LOW, LMAO
     
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  12. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Agree. If this is true, then this is pathetic.

    From a Champions league final to mid table mediocrity in the premiership, surely this is wrong advice
     
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  13. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    he has to be the most stringed along NT player in a LONG Time.
    -plays at Bremen and only makes WC22 because he was top scorer of 1BL but Flick never cared about him
    -then goes to BVB to improve his chances in NT and still ends up nothing but back up player
    -now threatning him that his chances are low if he stays at BVB and doesn't move to West Ham

    what exactly is West Ham gonna improve his chances when Havertz at Arsenal plays for bigger club and will play CL??? hahaha he's just being screwed over by DFB coaches. At this point its clear he's unlikely to ever become our 1st choice.

    only a new gen CF is likely to this.
     
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  14. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    The guy who turned Germany into the best team at the tourney in less than 12 months in charge is a clown

    Yep. Sure.
     
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  15. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Does it really seem likely to be true or at least the full story?

    For instance, it seems quite likely BVB no longer see Fülle as their starting 9
     
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  16. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    it wasn't hard to do just that Flick was pretty stupid and could never play with same XI at any point in time even during tourney. Imagine he played 21 different Ds in 25 matches, LMAO.

    Nagelsmann made sure that the core XI was the same before tourney and during tourney. He also used Flick's obsession with Kimmich in M and saw how disastrous it was and shifted him back to RB.

    I wouldn't be amazed by someone who used Flick's blunders to see the areas that need axing or fixing. I bet had he succeeded Low he likely would have blundered in his choices.

    and yes when it comes to some topics like CF he's 100% a clown.
     
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  17. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    That's poor from BVB as well imo, they are placing all their faith in a 28 year old journeyman CF Guirassy who has only had 1 top season in his entire career. He's hardly another Haaland so why is he instantly above Fullkrüg in the pecking order?
     
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  18. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Because BVB are a hot mess?

    I hope Sahin does well but i wouldn't bet on it
     
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  19. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
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  20. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    BVB is all over the place
    get rid of Moukoko, get rid of Haller, get rid of Fullkrug......at one point get rid of Adeyemi if the right amount of $$$ is thrown at their faces only to then change their minds because Sahin likes his speed.

    so your getting rid of 3/4 of your CFs and have nobody in line as of now to replace them??? Like all reports indicate that they are mostly functioning based on $$$. If we get a $30M offer for Fullkrug=we are selling him.

    same for Moukoko if they get $15-20M offer they will sell and move on.

    when a club gets rid of a CF or important position usually they should be heavily linked with someone else at same time.........crickets.

    who functions like that???

    imagine you end up finding no good alternatives after you sell these players, LMAO.

    I don't think the current market of CFs is a big one either. They will end up trading age/exp for inexperienced or mediocre options is likely end results.
     
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  21. Shwass5555

    Shwass5555 Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Nov 21, 2022

    By "Can be" I meant he is. I dont know about "done nothing" the interchange play with Wirtz and Musiala is what helped us break down defences and create chances. Again, it would be great if he is a better finisher, but he is the best we have at the moment. I am not saying he should start every game, all iam saying is for the style we play he is the better player suited for it.


    Why was the comparison to Kuranyi insulting?

    Kuranyi was a top class finisher, the rest of his game wasnt. I would say that is very similar to Füllkrug.
     
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  22. Shwass5555

    Shwass5555 Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Nov 21, 2022
    There is a bit more to the striker situation than that...Moukoko's salary is ridiculous especially in BVB for a player that hardly plays. He gets paid more than Füllkrug!!

    If Füllkrug was told he is not wanted, why stay?
     
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  23. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    International football is all about compromises

    i am impressed with how JN has managed his resources so far. Even the Sane thing, I can understand why he risked it, because Sane has that pace and X factor none of the others have
     
  24. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    that's not what happened, Sahin and some BVB brass are like we are planning Guirassy+Fullkrug and might even play 2 uptop but we would be willing to sell Fullkrug if the right price comes along.

    fastforward and Serie A, La Liga, EPL clubs all interested.

    so yeah they are willing to sell because they want $$$ and even admitted that now due to his CL+Euro showings that no better time to sell him as who knows what happens in future.

    not sure why a couple of people are constantly trying to put Fullkrug down and pretend like BVB doesn't want him...........do you guys ignore/forget that BVB has ALWAYS been a selling club???
     
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  25. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    According to this Moukoko gets €3m gross (on a par with Gittens), Füllkrug gets €6m.

    https://www.capology.com/club/borussia-dortmund/salaries/
     
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