Post-match: Germany vs Mexico World Cup 2018 17 June - Luzhniki Stadium

Sule like boetang and hummels is not mobile for that role, I think rudiger is more suited to the role

 

Oezil, Khedira,Mueller, Plattenhardt and Draxler were the worst players out there. Instead of trying something different, Kimmich kept crossing high into the box every single time. Mexican victory was confirmed when Gomez came in

 

28,29 is not old

 

Absolutely. Can't believe it he and his coaching staff were completely bemused by the mexiacan counterpart, problem is Mexico have now put a blue print to How to expose the tortoise Germany midfield and defence, hence they have to change, Sweden a traditional European side with a predictable style should enable Germany to find their feet, south korea are toothless so in a way loew must take advantage of this opportunity to twinker with tactics and personnel

 

That's why I'm disappointed he didn't call Weigl.

 

The difference yesterday between Jogi and the coach for Mexico was that he adapted his team to how Germany played, while Jogi was way too overconfidence in thinking that Germany could play the way they usually do, although I've never ever seen so many players for Germany go forward like yesterday

I guess the reason I really like Germany is because they play entertaining football - sending many players forward and playing risky
but in a fricking world cup you'd expect the coaches to rethink if it's worth taking the risk sending 7-8 players forward all the time
especially when the midfielders can't cover a shit

I just don't understand the criticism towards Hummels and Boateng lol, suddenly they are shit defenders because they couldn't cover the oceans of spaces yesterday? I think they did a good job considering the circumstances yesterday. Yes some mistakes, but not any defenders in the world would've been flawless yesterday

I don't know how many of you have actually played football, but then you know that 2vs2 situations are hard enough
2vs3 situations are really hard - you'll have to retreat all the way back towards your own goal hoping for a mistake by the attackers or waiting for support from the rest of the team

I can't then imagine how difficult and awful it must have been for Boateng and Hummels in those 2vs4 situations yesterday

 

At least only one goal was conceded yesterday
the goal difference might be crucial at the end

well what do we hope for today? Tie and 0-0 is probably the best result

 

I thought Hummels slipped a couple of times(thus leaving Boating almost by himself), plus along with the disappearing FB's, Boating & Hummels moved up field themselves(to take part on offense/or at least rest control of the midfield).

the take first control of the mid by sheer numbers(or referred by some as 'total football' or dfb manual)', concept gives little chance for fast breaks & leaves the back exposed to counters, but I guess can look good if you got the well disciplined, premium/players in their prime, lineups to enforce it(like Spain 2010, Germany 2014)

 

They have Rudy, Rudy actually played really well when partner with Kroos during the qualified macths...

 

Smart comments and a fresh take on the issue. However, do we ( or the wider world in general) really need his opinion RIGHT NOW?
I'd like Mueller to show his 2010 WC enthusiasm on the field. I can remember the absolute joy when he scored from an Ozil counter against England. Those days seem so distant. That is what we need Mueller to do now, and not opine on social media or the media in general. Less of talking, more of playing.

I've read Boateng and Hummels comments in the press and they have made stark incriminating statements, mainly against Loew's strategy (or lack of). No denying that Loew didn't do his homework for the Mexico game, but why discuss this in the open. Germany is a team tearing at the seams. Kind of like the dissesnsion in the France team at WM 2010. Or closer to home, like the Matthaus Klinsmann fallout before the 1998 WC.

Hopefully two wins out of the next two and the frayed nerves can relax. Until then its going to be a long 10 days.

 

I have said this about Bayern all season - Mueller is done. His touches are clumsy, crosses/passes are atrocious, consistently boucing off the opposition players. He is not in a good shape to play, let alone start on the wings. I mean what the hell is he doing on the wings and when has he excelled in that position to deserve that place in a world cup game?

Khedira should not start again...especially when you have a much younger and better players like Goretzka waiting for his chance.

Draxler was just sheisse. Sane should have been part of the team.


Disapponting start, but I hope Loew gets his head right first and follow up with getting the tactics and the starting eleven right.

 

The Mexicans did a great job preventing Kroos from connecting play and allowing Khedira to do it instead (and fail), rendering Germany's left flank useless. Would have been better that a DM collected the ball, carried it up the pitch, without taking any risk and shortening the distance of a pass. You'd form a diamond with the goalie, the two CBs and the DM. Thanks to Mexico's limited press Germany actually had plenty of time and space to safely and cleanly build out from deep. Even if the Mexicans had started pressing higher the diamond in the back should comfortably overload and play out cleanly. Seeing Mexico didn't, Germany should have been able to drive out of defence with the ball and draw in pressers from their opponents’ midfield, freeing up more advanced players.

 

Lothar Matthäus
"What an incredible disappointment yesterday. No pressing, no stability. The gaps were so big that you are almost scared. Especially between the central defenders and the midfielders. Everything a German team has always been was nonexistent. Nothing!"

"you are not playing to Thomas Müller's strengths when you isolate him on the wing. He lacks speed and dribbling. He is best at Bayern when he moves around Lewandowski. He was not present yesterday, was constantly running into the void."

"Only Boateng and Manuel Neuer can leave the game with their heads held high. The so-called Löw favourites and leaders have abandoned their coach and by that I mean Khedira, Özil and Müller"

"Reus should have started. I would pick him over Özil. In a World cup, it's all about starting the tournament perfectly, not saving your players because you're likely to get far. You don't play ter Stegen to save Neuer for the semi finals, so why not start Reus

"Julian Brandt was criticised for taking a selfie with a fan after the game. He did a small favour to a kid, so what? I could understand criticism if he was caught drunk at a party in Moscow, but that was a human gesture."

"I don't care about Özil's attitude towards the team, nor that he doesn't sing the anthem, but that he doesn't beckon the fans after the game, that I can't understand. You made a mistake so such gesture would be good. He gives the impression he's not part of the team

 

Put Sule in the 6! Which would really mean a 3 man back with him and CBS defending? Yea, it sounds ridiculous.

We are a flanking team...and Low will live or die by this....the die is cast

 

The big question is does loew actually come down with his ego to go against his outdated philosophy