Germany to Host the UEFA Euro 2024

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by Ger90, Sep 27, 2018.

  1. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    The thing is, if LG is not seen as a starter, or a key option of the bench, then it is often better to take the guy you know will work and do anything for the team

    Gross does seem more like that kind of guy. General workhorse, no ego.
     
  2. BorisG

    BorisG Member+

    Sep 30, 2009
    Namibia
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I recond now only surprise left is
    • Adeyemi or Beier?
    • Third GKeeper?
     
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  3. BorisG

    BorisG Member+

    Sep 30, 2009
    Namibia
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    ohhh Just heard Nubel has been selected - good choice I think
     
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  4. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Agree. Finally we are seeing clarity in selection process. Consistency in performance is key. No point selecting players who have not been consistent.

    This was a issue in past selection for major Tournaments. Rather than form, players were getting selected on past reputation.

    I say well done Naiglesman.
     
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  5. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    What about Ortega at City? Hes bern phenomenal whenever he's been called upon.
     
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  6. ShadowX

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    Borussia Dortmund
    Germany
    Sep 7, 2020
    That's really sad. Goretzka is far better than Gross, who was only good in the first half of the season and has faded badly since. Seriously questioning Nagelsmann now.
     
  7. ShadowX

    ShadowX Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Germany
    Sep 7, 2020
    Gross has not been consistent.
     
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  8. ShadowX

    ShadowX Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Germany
    Sep 7, 2020
    That was the major one but it's not just that. From the very start there were challenges for him to face that most most young developing players in a new country / league should not have to:

    - the COVID pandemic
    - getting COVID twice early on.
    - an inexperienced crap manager who did not know how to use him.
    - managerial instability over his entire tenure, including another relatively inexperienced manager.
    - many other players flopping all around him putting more pressure on him to perform.
    - the owner of the club having his assets frozen due to a war (one that could potentially have led to global war) resulting in extreme instability in the club and uncertainty over the clubs future.

    How could any young player thrive and develop in those circumstances is beyond me.
     
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  9. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    All good points.

    I also think the problem for Havertz has been it is not clear what his best position is, especially because he can play so many roles to a high level.

    His success in the close season has been because Arteta created an entirely new role for him

    He plays partly as 9, partly as attacking midfield, and partly as an 8

    he doesn't play as a false 9 at all.
     
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  10. marcellsas

    marcellsas Member

    Oct 13, 2014
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    #5235 marcellsas, May 15, 2024 at 9:23 AM
    Last edited: May 15, 2024 at 9:44 AM
    Why does Nagelsmann choose Muller over Brandt?, Bayern connection?
     
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  11. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Muller is chosen due to his mentality and character, plus he is still an excellent presser. I would have chosen Brandt as well, but not at Muller's expense.
     
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  12. marcellsas

    marcellsas Member

    Oct 13, 2014
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    GK) Ter Stegen, Nübel
    CB) Anton
    RB) Henrichs
    CM) Kroos
    AM) Musiala, Wirtz

    Who will be the last piece?
     
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  13. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Either Beier or Adeyemi I think.
     
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  14. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    He has. Remeber, he's had to adjust his position and taken on added leadership due to Brighton as a club who have been ravaged with injuries and a transition period.
     
  15. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Agree. Muller brings far more than just the playing side of things. He's like a general amongst the group.
     
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  16. ShadowX

    ShadowX Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Germany
    Sep 7, 2020
    Exactly.

    IMHO Germany needs to do the same.
     
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  17. ShadowX

    ShadowX Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Germany
    Sep 7, 2020
    Has Raum been selected?
     
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  18. ShadowX

    ShadowX Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Germany
    Sep 7, 2020
    That has had zero significant effect for the last two tournaments.
     
  19. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    A lack of balance in the team, and the continued fantasy of playing a false 9 were more of a issue than Mullers participation
     
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  20. ShadowX

    ShadowX Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Germany
    Sep 7, 2020
    That's opinion.

    Fact is Muller's participation has had zero beneficial effect.
     
  21. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    With the lack of success we've had for the last decade, I'm certain it's not only Mullers participation that's the route cause
     
  22. ShadowX

    ShadowX Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Germany
    Sep 7, 2020
    Agreed, but Muller's presence has not helped an any way. And while I have great respect for him, there are players who deserve that spot more.
     
  23. BorisG

    BorisG Member+

    Sep 30, 2009
    Namibia
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Yes agreed can only be between the two of them
     
  24. BorisG

    BorisG Member+

    Sep 30, 2009
    Namibia
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Yes he has
     
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  25. BorisG

    BorisG Member+

    Sep 30, 2009
    Namibia
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    How much playing time will Brandt or muller get at the Euros - I assume very little .
    But muller will for sure add a few other factors like motivation , fun , mentoring and speaking some confidence into the team , ontop of a 10 or 20 minutes here and there where he could
    Make an impact .
    I am okay for muller to join the euros at home in Germany . I am sure he is well aware of his role .

    we have neuer / Kroos and muller there from 2014 , which is a good thing .
    Then we have our middle aged players who have been around for a while anf
    Some who have been preforming top this season and our young ones who actually have racked up great experience .

    I think the team is well rounded and the Timing is great . We as good as any other team
     

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