Germany to Host the UEFA Euro 2024

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by Ger90, Sep 27, 2018.

  1. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Kevin Schade back from LONG TERM injury last weekend had assist and now today scores his 2nd of season in EPL.
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    Schade is catching to Grealish's EPL #s this season with a lot less game time and caps, LULZ.
     
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  2. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    W Hack at Gladbach bagged hat trick and now closing in on double digits in his 1st real 1BL season. He's also now Gladbach's leading scorer in 1BL this season too. Interesting to note, that it was Nagelsmann at Hoffenheim who gave Hack his 1BL/pro debut ages ago and DFB always liked him too.

    its interesting to seeing dev of Fuhrich, Beste, Dinkci, Hack, Skarke, Njinmah all of them outside of Fuhrich are either playing 1st 1BL season or 1st real 1BL season.

    well who would ever say no to expanding the AM/W pool of options. Also 2 of those can play all attacking positions too.
     
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  3. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #4803 Ger90, Apr 20, 2024
    Last edited: Apr 20, 2024
    On topic of CFs,

    -Pool for Euro 2020, 10 players
    Werner, Stindl, Petersen, Holer, Niederlechner, Waldschmidt, Kruse, Uth, Volland, Selke

    I mean LOL, Low basically blacklisted Stindl+Kruse. Didn't get along with Volland at all.Called up Petersen+Uth+Waldschmidt for a few caps and then never again. I 100% got the feeling he didn't like any of them. I'm sure he hates Petersen for breaking his records at Freiburg, LMAO. Holer and Niederlechner never did enough to get called up and add that Low only wanted Elite CFs, LOL. Wanted to call up Selke but Low had requirement that CFs score double digits for numerous seasons etc. So because of that GOAT Selke was always left out.

    so what you ended up with was Werner and that's it. People wanted to shit on Werner but how is it his fault if every other player was ruled OUT or blacklisted by the coach.:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

    -Pool for WC22, 18 players+2
    Kruse, Polter, Stindl, Petersen, Holer, Uth, Niederlechner, Waldschmidt, Fullkrug (screwed by Flick but won 1BL top scorer in 2023....), Werner (injured), Havertz (new entry for position), Nmecha (new entry), Berisha (new entry), Burkardt (new entry), Moukoko (newer entry), Volland, Selke, Tigges (new entry)..........Adeyemi/Schade can play all attacking positions

    in between WC and now=Kruse, Stindl, Petersen=basically retired and Niederlechner in 2BL

    -Pool for Euro 2024, 22 players+4
    Werner, Havertz (best career season in EPL), Fullkrug, Ducksch (best career season), Undav (breakout season), Kleindienst (breakout season),Waldschmidt, Tietz (breakout season), Holer (best career season), Burkardt (back from long term injury), Nmecha (sadly out for season), Berisha (also out for season), Pieringer (breakthrough season), Volland, Seydel, Tigges, Dietz (destroyed by injuries), Selke (looks out for season), Ngankam, Michel, Polter, Broschinski, Big Phil, Uth (destroyed by injuries)+ Adeyemi/Schade/Dinkci/Njinmah can play all attacking positions

    even if you filter out this you still end up with
    Werner, Havertz, Fullkrug, Ducksch, Undav, Kleindienst, Tietz, Burkardt, Nmecha, Berisha, Volland, Uth, Waldschmidt+ Adeyemi/Schade/Dinkci/Njinmah

    why include Volland, Uth, Waldschmidt, simply because they all have SNT caps=part of pool. Even if you ignore those 3 and ignore Nmecha/Berisha for injuries you still end up with 8 options+4. Shame about Nmecha+Berisha as both were making good dev, hopefully both return next season with a bang like Burkardt has done.


    LOL I recall when I was accused by a troll of lying for last 2 years for saying that the CF Pool is increasing by the tourney or by the season.....The #s speak for themselves, 10 to 18+2 to 22+4, haha. 1st time I even see what the list and #s look like. Was just going with flow and the increasing emergence of players in 1BL at CF by season. Actually the Pool for Euro 2024 is actually bigger as I didn't even include any players from U21 who are in 1BL, LOL.

    More funny is how DFB for LONG TIME love to hide behind the whole we got 0 CFs. DOOMED!!!!!! Even though the numbers show an increase. And even if you compare to other NTs. Outside of Pengland Kane who has a world class CF??? Old Man Giroud on his last legs....Morata at Spain=LOL. There aren't any, if one pays attention, one would see that vast majority of the so called World Class or Elite CFs in Europe don't come from any of our rival countries but from smaller countries.

    also what's interesting to see is based on 2BL.
    We are on track and closing in towards a Fiete Arp and J.Eggestein making 1BL jump next season. 2 highly rated CFs when younger finally making that Grand Return to 1BL. Both were derailed by injuries, clubs screwing them and bad career choices. A good remainder to NEVER write off players. What's stupid is writting off any player who are just 1 level below 1BL. If "highly rated" youth has been lagging in 3rd Liga-RL then yeah go ahead write them off.....but 2BL-1st Abroad.....that makes 0 sense. Sure neither will be world class but barely any players in Europe are world class anyways. And as we know its fact that good chunk of Germans end up late bloomers anyways.....hey as long as they make it that's all that matters. Will be interesting to see how they perform in 1BL next season and they got 2 years before WC26 too. And not saying either will make it but will increase the pool. Next season should also see Grand Return of Asamoah 2.0 aka Ragnar Ache!!!!! Glatzel also linked with another 1BL attempt next season.

    meanwhile from younger players aka still YNT eligible and not older, its great to see the
    Beier (breakout 1BL season), Woltemade (looks headed to 1BL Stuttgart transfer in Summer aka CL next season), Scherhant, Moukoko, Downs, Tresoldi, Ansah, Topp, Copado, Imasuen, Weiper, Pejcinovic, Torsiello, Brunner, Moerstedt, Stange, Izekor etc all making relevant pro progress or super close. And plenty of others knocking on door or will transfer higher in future. A lot of the players mentioned here are actually highly rated whether Internally or Internationally or both.
     
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  4. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Philipp Lahm on whether he sees Joshua Kimmich as a right-back or a midfielder: "A player must always accept the role assigned to him by the coach. This is part of competitive sports. I played in midfield at the 2014 World Cup because I made my qualities available to the team. For me, Joshua Kimmich is a natural midfielder and a bit better there. But he has proven that he can play right-back. The coach sees what his team needs and where. Therefore, it may make sense to play him as a right-back."


    Lahm is one of the more they talk the more stupid they are, LOL.
    LOL you were a shit DM and better at RB and Kimmich is a shit M and better off at RB.

    Kimmich at M is one of biggest reason the NT has struggled he just leaves entire D exposed, LOL.
     
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  5. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
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    FC Bayern München
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    Germany
     
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  6. MatthausSammer

    MatthausSammer Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Something I've felt the weight of in a major way is that the DFB, and Löw/Flick, were extremely hesitant to play players that weren't highly recognized on the world stage. And Germany's AMs, like Götze or Müller, were substantially more recognized than an Uth or Wagner. But this creates this extremely high bar for CFs to get on the DFB radar, such that you would essentially have to be a Lewandowski-level CF to be considered for the DFB. Rather than select for role and pick a player not universally recognized as world-class, the DFB will put players in roles that don't suit them at all, which has led to nothing but embarrassments. I have hope that Nagelsmann is finally the manager that recognizes that having a coherent team structure will produce better results than shoehorning a big name.
     
  7. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    that was sadly by design and then reversal.
    Low is a copy cat coach who rips from this coach or that coach. His main copy-paste was to emulate Spanish/Barcelona/Pep and add German flavour to it. He used to go to Spain and visit their facilities and see how they do things etc.

    so he saw those Spanish Losers play false 9 and it spurred him on to go for false 9. What need is there for a CF when you can just play an AM in the role. So then everyone in Germany started playing false 9 over CFs. I think idea was about ball possession and passing cough neverending passing until you find hole cough, and view that AM would do better job than CFs. A lot of CFs or the so called Classical CFs (barf,very limited types) wouldn't be well suited for this due to being average with ball on their feet.

    its same reason why 90s born didn't produce much dribblers in AM/W because
    "no you can't dribble, you'll lose ball and give it away."

    Brandt last year himself said that his own youth coach used to get PISSED that he always dribbling but that he was too good to bench, LOL. Imagine that and he's not only player from 90s born who said story about coaches being pissed about dribbling.....fastforward, DFB crying about where are the dribblers? where are the street footballers? LULZ.

    but back to CF then Low backtracked after realizing its not as effective and started crying
    "Where is the German Lewa????"
    "Where is the German Suarez???"

    LOL, so yeah Low ALWAYS wanted a World Class or Elite CFs or BUST. He also had requirement that you need to score double digits in NUMEROUS back to back season, so would take one years for call up. Like it means you risk not calling up players who are in form too because they haven't done it enough years. Nevermind his infamous blacklisting of CFs that MASSIVELY shrinks the pool, LOL and then complains about small CF pool, haha.

    like neither he nor Flick realized as you said that one should call up players based on need and profile not world class this or that.

    then the DFB and media SCAPEGOAT the entire topic of CFs, every tourney failure is because of the so called 0 CFs....nevermind that 2018 WC we had Gomez+Werner and WC22 we had Fullkrug that Flick REFUSED to play in XI and he was our best player at that tourney.

    DFB are clowns, I called out the CF and dribbling AM/W issue back in 2017, way before any of the bitching by DFB. Who is stupid enough to think that we don't need CFs, that false 9 is good, LOL and AM/W don't need to dribble and be solo difference makers.......the players in those positions are the ones who win you games in general.

    can tell you right now, every single hole for Germany=ALL self-created issues. But DFB will rarely admit to this and will just trash the players......but who is dev the players....its you, LOL.

    if we wasted over a decade of dev wise then its due to DFB.

    but the emerging next gen CFs which there is a lot of quality and emerging next gen AM/W which are full of quality too should allow us at some point in future to get back on full track. A Lot of exciting potential and for CFs, a lot of them show that they have 1BL potential too. This isn't like 90s age group where huge amount didn't have 1BL potential and even ones who did, very few good enough for SNT. Not only that but skillset+package is much better than 90s born too. Too early for Euro 2024, could start being a thing for WC26 MIN.
     
  8. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    This guy is a complete midfielder. Really hope he gets his chance in the June Friendlies. Hope he don't shit on us and goes with the Serbs?
     
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  9. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    As an analogy, and a defence of managers, this has happened in All Black Rugby a lot, because we have so many fine attacking players, so there always comes the temptation to shoe-horn guys in. While that is a danger, I also think it is often a lose/lose proposition for the manager, because if top players get left out, the manager also gets roasted.

    The reality is Germany still lost many games that Fullkrug played in and the main reason we lost them is the defence sucked.

    Also, the best performances of late, actually came against elite teams with Havertz starting. Nagelsmann isn't stupid and he knows from watching Arsenal that Havertz provides critical pressure high up the field.

    The defence improving is a really great sign that things are moving in the right direction. Fullkrug will obviously play a critical role, but i don't see that Nagelsmann got much wrong lately.
     
  10. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    True to a extent. But, Germany's recent performances and wins are against opponents who went toe to toe with us which leaves spaces and we had the quality to punish them.

    It's the low block teams like Scotland, Hungary, who will be happy to sit in a low block for the majority of the game and hit on the break which has been the Achilles heel.

    Havertz does not have the game as a center forward for these situations, Fullkrug does.

    Our defense to be fair were making individual mistakes which is bad enough. But to make matters worse we were playing without a CDM which is critical for the balance of the team.
     
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  11. Aderthan

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    Schwarz weiss essen
    Germany
    Nov 17, 2020
    Lahm is talking nonsense. One must remember that the real reason why Germany won the 14 WC was the moment when Mustafi decided to take himself out of the tournament, ultimately forcing Jogi to revert Lahm to the RB position.
     
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  12. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    in recent interview he said he wants Germany recall!!!!

    Mustafildini took one for the team, LEGEND!!!!
     
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  13. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
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    Germany
    Ducksch bagged his 10th of season and 1-0 lead vs Stuttgart.

    Double Digits CFs this season so far
    Undav, Beier, Fullkrug, Kleindienst, Ducksch, Demirovic (poached)

    Closing in on Double
    Haverz (9, EPL), Tietz (8), Holer (7)
     
  14. BVBFNM

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    Apr 3, 2016
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    Borussia Dortmund
    Füllkrug makes it 1-0! What a goal!
     
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  15. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
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    FC Bayern München
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    Germany
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    Selke>>>>>>>>>>>>Fullkrug>>>>>>>>>>>>>Havertz

    #fact

    joking around I do like athletic goals, we don't always see Germans do them too. Its also good to see that Fullkrug is starting to pick it up in important matches, these should boost his chances to become 1st choice at Euro 2024. Especially if he performs in SF of CL.
     
  16. ShadowX

    ShadowX Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Germany
    Sep 7, 2020
    #4816 ShadowX, Apr 21, 2024
    Last edited: Apr 21, 2024
    Havertz has the highest 'Goal creating actions per 90' in the EPL in 2024 by some distance.

    He plays a role in almost every goal Arsenal have scored, including their 1st against Bayern and both against Wolves.

    Arsenal's play has dropped off because both Saka and Martinelli are bot fully fit and off form.
     
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  17. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    but EPL is a farmer's league!!!!:whistling::whistling::whistling:

    I'm not surprised that league flopped in Europe.
     
  18. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    fantastic finish from Burkardt!!!, his 6th goal of season for 1-1, very striker finish too.
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    has to be one of most in form CFs in recent
    5 goals and 2 assists in past 7 matches......for relegation candidates too.

    had he played all season and not been out for 4 months (was out even longer than that too) and then needing to 2 months to regain his form would easily have bagged double ages ago.
     
  19. BVBFNM

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    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
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    Their only hope is Aston Villa in the Conference Legue.
     
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  20. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
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    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Conference League is just a money grab tourney. I've never watched 1 match of that either.

    2 Euro tourneys are MORE then enough.
     
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  21. BVBFNM

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    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Well, there used to be a total of four Euro tournaments: the Champions League, The Cup Winners' Cup which was considered the second most important one, the UEFA Cup (now Europa League), and the Intertoto Cup which nobody remembers.
     
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  22. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    we are getting expand FIFA Club World Cup!!!YAY for exhausting players with Summer tourneys every year.....
     
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  23. BVBFNM

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    Apr 3, 2016
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    Something tells me European clubs participating will use the expanded Club World Cup as their Summer prep with the added incentive of prize money.
     
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  24. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Kicker XI of matchday
    GK Zetterer, M Goretzka, M/W Amiri, AM/W Muller, W Hack, CF Ducksch
     
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  25. ShadowX

    ShadowX Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Germany
    Sep 7, 2020
    Interesting that Pavlovic's performance against Union Berlin is being lauded (deservedly so), but noone is mentioning the obvious best player of that match, Leon Goretzka. He got a goal, an assist, and 2 of the other goals are directly due to him winning balls and pre-assisting.

    He also got an assist and was the highest rated player in the 1st leg against Arsenal, and was the 2nd highest rated player (after winning goal scorer Kimmich) in the 2nd leg.

    He was also great in both legs against Lazio, and his defensive performance and stats across all these games was very good to excellent.

    Admittedly he was poor against BVB and Heidenheim, but that was the entire team, including Musiala.

    I really hope Nagelsmann has not blacklisted players for reasons.
     
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