German Fraulein National Team 2020 & beyond

You'd have to be pretty ignorant of football's long history, to try and juxtapose the experience of football culture in Germany, with that of the USA...

Your talking about one of the most successful nations in the sports entire history, and trying to compare it to the experience of football culture in the USA, all because of a goofy FIFA ranking placing the USmnt higher than the German mnt..; this when Germany's men were ranked as low a 22 in 2006, and 8 years later won the WC lol...

See.. the German women have been really successful, but this for a nation their men have produced even greater success, over a much longer period of time, and with players that are often discussed as some of the sports goats.

If you can't understand this... I don't know what to say, other than try making a female NFL have the same standing as the men. Or wait until the USmnt reach a WC final/win a WC, to see what that does to truly change the landscape of the sport in north America forever.

 

My narrative isn't off though... your not understanding the reality of non Title IX backed sports cultures outside of the US, because your viewing everything through a context of various fallacies put forward by the USwnt.

And yes, I'm talking about the kinds of fallacies, where US football culture allows it's USwnt to try and argue their WC final 82 million global viewership, a true equal to that of the men's (France Vs Croatia) final producing 517 million...

Concerns of popularity in German women's football are fair, but now seeming to be mixed with increasingly distorted opinion too; these opinions filtered through other Euro nations simply providing their female leagues, and wnt's, more visibility via TV/TV streaming.

Should the German wnt return to be a side producing exciting winning football, the type of football German audiences want to watch, not only would the wnt audiences simply replicate the SAME size of Euro rivals, it still wouldn't come close to the public interest that would always want to see their mnt play.

 

Yes, Germany's history in women's football is pretty strong... but you know what's even more dominant within the sporting landscape of their nation... their mnt's long running history of success. So tell me how my NFL analogy is the wrong narrative within this debate...?

The NFL in north America being the closest approximation of what soccer is for a nation like Germany. I would never try to relate any of this to the scenarios created within US soccer; as scenarios within US soccer see's it's unsuccessful mnt, the perfect ammunition for it's wnt players to push arguments on their status being equal, or higher than male athletes.

This in the face of a reality young American stars like Christian Pulisic can earning a basic salary of 3.5 Million Euro each season he's at Chelsea, knowing better players in Europe can obtain better contracts that see them earn 10 to 20 million a season.

Only huge ignorance allows US soccer to push agenda suggesting the sports global values the same as it is in America. While Twitter handles tell you Rapinoe and the wnt the best soccer players in America... oblivious to the financial and athletic reality of the global sport saying the exact opposite.

 

I want to see Germany's wnt respected more, and have the Bundesliga make adjustments that allow it to become a more visible entity within domestic, and international markets too. But I'm not going make irrational proclamations about the women being at the same level as the men either, trying to validate mislead reasoning for stagnation.

So I'd like to see the receipts on this "skyrocketed" viewership and participation in French women's football, that highlights how disappointing Germany should feel...; as I'm pretty sure the numbers of registered female players in Germany is still huge, with the viewership for both leagues, and wnt matches, not being as disastrous you'd think given the sports relative lower profile, and covid restrictions in stadiums.

The men's Bundesliga was able to beat the EPL for average attendance, in a nation the 3rd divisions worst team could still average close to 1K prior to covid. But these aren't factors you consider if you simply view this through a simplistic/idealistic perspective of the US, who use government legalization to skew funding, and interest, towards otherwise marginal female athletics.

 

Nothing as crazy as Title IX exists outside the US... NOTHING. But the advantages nations like Germany do have for their women in this sport, aren't really being utilized at the maximum efficiency just yet either.

So I hear your arguments, but also feel like there's a lot hyperbole here, mixed with a weirdly normal US centric sense of entitlement lol. Always ignoring that successful football nations like Germany will have their own long established football identity, and wider sporting culture in women's sports; your not making real arguments for rivals superior progression, if it's solely being based on your understanding of US football, or random one off attendance records in Europe.

I mean England Vs. Germany sets a new record, with a 60 something thousand attendance within a 90k capacity Wembley, then a year later England with a much hyped new coach beats North Macedonia in front of 8 thousand people, within a 32k seater stadium... Like I keep saying... remove the false narratives, and positive media propaganda, your not seeing the German wnt program with a major malfunction when it comes to matching the more genuine status of it's European peers.

All this without the force field Title IX provides the USwnt, or it's fans, when anybody starts asking questions concerning the disparity in the attendances between elite male and female football matches in their nation. And no... the BS 8% higher attendance for the wnt, isn't what I'm speaking about lol.

 

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That`s not what I expected. MVT said on the press conference after the Bulgaria game that it will be difficult for her to choose the players for Euro out of 30 possible candidates and now she has only two different starters against Serbia. Kleinherne who was praised by MVT after the Bulgaria match is replaced by Lattwein and Lohmann by Brand.

 

Jovana Damnjanovic is just back after her ACL injury and isn`t nominated by Serbia.

 

Germany look terrible, lmao

 

It was a bad pass by Oberdorf but Lattwein was equally guilty.

 

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The entire first 45 minutes were pretty disastrous, seeing Germany find themselves with fewer shots on goal than their more cohesive Serbian opponents.

Yet again MVT's ridiculous insistence on forcing Marozsan - Däbritz into CM roles, while continuing to destroy Oberdorf as the once highly positive CM prospect come nervous CB, resulted in a very confused team looking absolutely Jones era awful.

But to suggest they only improved through the second half by not passing the ball as much, is a really poor assessment of what actually accrued here; as I saw MVT's Germany finally start showing controlled aggression, alongside one touch passing again...

 

LOL... I thought Nüsken was absolutely terrible in the 1st half, and very sloppy in the 2nd. So I don't get how she validated MVT not selecting someone like Simon, or any of the other genuine LB's available to her...

I'm sure facing stronger opponents, if Nüsken and the various provisional looking defenders in this team stay prominent features of MVT's plans, they will be even more exposed than they were for the opening 45 minutes Vs. Serbia. (Showing how poor this aspect of MVT's team construction remains)

But I'll give MVT some credit this time... not just for being able to acknowledge how poor the balance in mid-field/defense was, but actually getting her players to showcase the kind of positivity able to produce accurate one touch passing again.

This highlighted best for me in Leupolz goal. Finish a really nice sequence of one touch passing, with a great shot at goal. This something I used to expect to see all the time, but now feel like it such an rare occasion it worthy of praise lol.

 

She's not a striker who will create her own chances... and it's been a major issue for her within MVT's style of play; but the second half definitely showcased what happens if you provide her with more early deliveries inside the opponents box, and don't ask her to play with her back to goal so much.

I think Schuller's second goal is what MVT needs to watch, and continue demanding of her team in future. And this a must if MVT's style going to persist using such an inconsistent and naive approach to defending.

 

.... Facing the 3 opponents she has as a CM (Australia, Norway, France), and looking how she was versus inferior opponents as a LB, I'm 100% sure Nüsken's not a defender lol; appearing really bad against Bulgaria and Serbia, I'd like to read your explanation on how she's "aced" her new defensive tasks..?

In my opinion, Simon, Rauch, Gwinn, Rall would have all been VASTLEY superior options in the LB role. Not forgetting other strong young defenders in the league like Küver, Helcer, Gerhardt, Linder too...

I'd also take more mature options like Wolter, Wedemeyer, or Lena Ostermeier, if it would of meant not having to endlessly watch Nüsken charge into CM before losing the ball, or turning back to the half way line, before passing it to the CB's.

 

Never said German football was a "rosie picture for the future"... I was simply trying to highlight how much international football always goes in cycles.

Anybody trying to paint a picture that a German mnt being 14th in the FIFA rankings, suddenly equates to it being the end of the world, only highlight the ignorance of them not knowing Germany's mnt also been in a much worse condition too, but less than a decade later made themselves world champions...

I can understand how the USmnt not win.... well, doing anything of particular prestige outside of CONCACAF region, makes it hard for you to grasp the level of popularity for the sport within a nation like Germany; a nation it's mnt have reached many finals, and won many of the games biggest tournaments.

But think... the USwnt has to win everything on offer, to simply make themselves as financially viable as a mnt that hasn't done anything. In a sport the USmnt's best player can transfer to a new European club for 70 million Euro's, and gains a 10-15 million Euro salary contract, as he see's various elite male players earn themselves 100 million Euro contracts.

Can't you see how different things are outside the context of North American soccer, and how this could both negatively, and positively, effect the development/culture surrounding other types of women's soccer...?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=O3tkesRhpX8&feature=youtu.be

And this the full stream of the u19's win Vs Belgium... Küver as a CB looks like it makes real sense within this age group, but I wonder if she eventually transitions to being a CB at senior level...

 

https://www.bavarianfootballworks.c...h-magull-gwinn-schuller-dallmann-buhl-lohmann

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