German Dual/Triple Nationals.

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by Ger90, Oct 27, 2018.

  1. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    he's not German yet, seems likely to be one in a bunch of years assuming he doesn't leave. But looks like Jatta is reported to be going to play for Gambia

    think it's for the best.
     
  2. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    99 GK Luyambula seems to be on loan to English League Two from Championship club. So far he's played in the minor cup games for 1st team and he's played 6 games but otherwise he's the bench GK.

    sometimes hard to remember/follow German duals as if you go to TM for example, players like this one are listed for the other nationality. In TM, go to German leagues and you see that numerous players are listed as "foreign" when they are in fact German duals.
     
  3. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany


    so Ngankam doesn't get any chances by Yalcin who plays in Turkey could?

    and there you go Yalcin could return to Germany as stated in the past, German clubs don't care about where you play, current obsession is pro experience. That he could return isn't surprising and he had no chances at Bayer too....
     
  4. Sam Miami

    Sam Miami Member

    Bayern Munich
    Germany
    Sep 11, 2019
    Agree on Jatta 100
     
  5. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I just don't think he's an amazing player, he's decent but that's it. We don't need him focus on other guys.

    think like the fake identity stuff doesn't help, he won't be eligible for another like bunch of years too. I mean will anyone care about 23-25 year old Jatta being eligible?

    I understand that most of Gambians are refugees but I feel like Jatta came to Germany way too old for my taste. Someone like 03-Sanyang from Hoff is currently 16, interesting player but seems like he's been in Germany for over 5 years.

    Sanyang
    1. FC Heidenheim 1846 (-2015), TSG 1899 Hoffenheim (2015-)

    that at least is someone who's been entrenched in German system for awhile now.
     
  6. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    always interesting to read backstories of players.

    On Bayern II's 00-Ontuzans
    Ontužāns was born in Vangaži, Latvia, but he moved to Augsburg with his parents, who relocated to Germany for work, when he was eight.[9]

    He played some in Latvia as a kid and then seems like from 2008-2010 he played at Augsburg and from 2010-present at Bayern.

    it makes sense as rules I believe your not allowed to move to another country unless your min 16 for footballing reasons. But he didn't move for football, it's due to his parents for work. And has been in German dev for 12 years.

    he's also already permanently capped by Latvia as they called him up to senior NT in Euro qualifiers. Thar seem way too obsessive as if Germany was going to take him.

    he played some 1st team friendlies over this Summer but as always he's always injured, can't ever stay healthy. Injured himself in those friendlies and seems still injured. Unlikely to make it at Bayern, will be curious about his future.

    oh and those Summer friendlies he played were the exact same that Kovac took 0 real 1st team prospects. LOL.Like Bayern kept all the real 1st team Academy prospects at home (Arp and Singh are not Academy players but played there).
     
  7. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    96-Anton is linked with a move to Russian club.
    https://www.liga-zwei.de/hannover-96-wird-ein-wechsel-von-waldemar-anton-zum-thema/

    he's provisionally capped by Germany in U21 is eligible for Russia too. Born in Uzbekistan to German mom and Russian father and moved to Germany at 2 years old. Pre-WC 2018, Russia wanted to poach him but didn't happen if he moves to Russia, wouldn't be surprised if it does happen.

    he seems really Russia though, always spoke Russian at home too.

    if he does switch to Russia at some point could be 3rd German-Russian to play for Russia following Roman Neustadter and Constantine Raush. Believe he wants to make Germany but still open for Russia. I think it's been obvious for awhile that he's not going to make it at Germany. Especially if the up coming cbs pan out.....

    another German-Russia is 97-Lowen although think recent interview he stated he can't see himself playing for Russia and that he made dfb choice whether he plays German senior NT or not. We'll see if he sticks to that or not.....

    there are a bunch of other German-Russians but those guys are mostly currently lower levels or youth ones. According to TM, 03-Fust of Bayern U17 is German-Russia, could be the next high profile German-Russian at the top of my head.
     
  8. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Hannover ranks 13th in 2BL

    hard for him and Germany... he can’t be an option
     
  9. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    funny that R.Khedira, Lowen, Anton, Uduokhai, Torunarigha were all offered free WC tickets but all said no at the time.
     
  10. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    just noticed that 01-Cevis of Augsburg U19 was called up to Croatia U20 in mid-Nov.

    lol U20=00s why wasn't he called up to Croatia U19? Sounds likely because Croatia U19 are cap tying games and also because he was never part of their group, new addition.

    I believe he has played some Augsburg 1st team friendlies last season.

    joins 99-Stanic as another German-Croatian at Augsburg who plays for Croatia.
     
  11. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    said it before we have duals from all over the world. The interesting thing about our duals from all over the world. Is that we got a TON of players who are basically German father or mother and Foreign father or mother. Half-Half.

    German-Mexican Goransch joins Mexican 2nd division club from Wolfsburg II.


    he was training with Club American (1st division) but the issue is that he would have been counted as a foreign player since he was fully trained in Germany so didn't happen.

    Goransch was born in Mexico to German father and Mexican mother. Here's the backstory.

    "As his name suggests, Goransch is half-German, half-Mexican; he was born in Puebla, Mexico, to a German father and Mexican mother. His parents met in Mexico because his father, from Wolfsburg originally, was working for his car company on a placement in Puebla. Once Adrian was born, the family remained in Mexico for seven months before upping sticks to the United States, where Adrian lived until he was three. From there, the family returned to Goransch Senior's hometown, Wolfsburg, where they have been ever since."

    so from 3 years old to 2020 he was in Germany.
    if I recall he had injury issues over last year.
     
  12. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    00 CF Uzun (who left Bochum Germany, was U19 West top scorer last season.) and moved to Turkey this Summer finally started his pro career recently in December.

    -In Turkish League: 1 goal and 1 assist in 2 games, only one start. His only start was a 6-2 loss, so involved in both goals.
    -In Turkish Cup, 2 goals in 2 games.

    His 1st pro season as of now: 3 goals and 1 assist in 4 games.Looks like we have another Yalcin one who would be nowhere near 1BL in Germany but good enough for Turkish 1st division and then reality the more they play well and do well the more likely they will attract attention from higher level leagues.

    At this point, the path to 1BL from U19 is getting too complicated and easier to just breakthrough in lower level leagues.

    and he's provisionally capped by Turkey too, would expect he gets Turkey U20-U21 call up.
     
  13. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    since no one can dev their own players anymore, looks like St Pauli U19 01-Flach will be called up to the USA U20. At this point, I think all German-Americans have either been poached or USA wanted (still want) to poach them.......

    this kid played for Germany U18 like less than a year ago and saying how proud he his to wear the German jersey just to jump ship the moment someone else calls him up. Always dislike when I see soooo many duals state that they will play to whoever calls them 1st or to whoever calls them.

    he's been playing in Germany from 5 years old-present too, fully dev in Germany.


    Flach signed in 2018, a pro contract that will make him part of the 1st team for the 2020-2021 season. Whether he makes it or not time will tell. But more and more duals close to 1st team clubs who are getting poached left and right.
     
  14. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    A good example of a one coach rates you to another not giving a shit.


    went from Koln II/RL to 2BL Aue where the coach Meyer was very high on him but when new coach arrived he never gave him any chances so forced to go lower level to 3rd Liga, signed until 2022.
     
  15. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    -And Schaub leaves Koln and moves to HSV.


    -seems like Dadashov #1 is headed to USL Championship (2nd division in USA). Munster seems to have accused him of being a player who never cared about the club......

    -98 Can Coskun of Furth II is having trial with 3rd Liga Zwickau.
     
  16. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
     
  17. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Frankfurt duels getting calls ups from other Feds.
    -02 Bakirsu who is Frankfurt U19 captain. Played 1 German U16 game before going to Turkey U17 where he was provisionally capped tied and now getting Turkey U18 call up.
    -04 Deda has been called up by Albania U16 to play in some tourney (non cap tying one) the Mercedes Benz Aegean Cup.
    -04 Afsar was called up by Turkey U16 for the 1st time ever for the same tourney as Deda where he scored the winner in 1-0 win over Kosovo.

    -05 Kovac training with Bosnia

    Turkey also called up Hoff U16 player 04-Eren Akgeyik to their squad for the Aegean Cup.
     
  18. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    that Afsar scored the winner really does highlight how much TFF depend on German dev players.....
     
  19. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  20. Brandko

    Brandko Member+

    Dec 12, 2013
    Ger90 repped this.
  21. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Nutcase Report,

    99-Dadashov's Portugal loan bombed so he returned to EPL Wolves.

    and now this.
     
  22. Brandko

    Brandko Member+

    Dec 12, 2013
    Ger90 repped this.
  23. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    have to say I forget that he's German and German dev too, had left 3 years ago and provisionally capped by Croatia. If he does well would expect him to get permanently capped by them.
     
  24. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    lol Jesaja Herrmann's father Charles Akonnor was few days ago named Ghana senior NT coach. Incoming poaching from Ghana, we have lots of German-Ghanians.:p I'm not specifically talking about his son who needs to get his career in order 1st.
     
  25. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    we have German Rohr as Nigeria Senior NT coach and now Akonnor who has German connections as Ghana Senior NT coach.......

    on another note, what a crash and burn. At this rate he's another Marin, a player who goes from league to league aka journeyman.
     

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