German attendance boom

Arrrgh, sorry....misread your post...thought you meant the UEFA Cup final 2002......Liverpool-Alaves. Sorry.

BVB-Liverpool is still cool.

 

I would have to disagree on your statement about there only being three big clubs outside of London, (Man Utd , Newcastle and Liverpool), there are other traditional big clubs,who although don't have the countrywide support of the three you mentioned, regularly draw big crowds. Some have very outdated stadiums which were built in the 20's and 30's and with the ripping out of terracing, drastically reduced their capacity. So for example a stadium that could hold around 50,000, now holds about 35,000. The sort of clubs i mean are clubs like Aston Villa and Everton who's grounds are both past their sell by date!
Also the average gate for BL1 may be higher than the prem, but here in England there is alot more fans "spread" round the divisions, if you know what i mean, with clubs like Sheffield Wednesday averaging 23,000 in the third division, also Hull City who average about 16,000 in the same division. Even Carlisle United in the non-league Conference (Div 5) average about 8,000. Obvious exceptions in the German lower leagues would be Braunschweig and St. Pauli i agree.
Also the statement about Spurs, Chelsea, and Arsenal sharing the audience in London is wrong.Yes they draw big crowds, but they dont speak for the whole of London. West Ham draw about 35,000 per game, Charlton about 25,000, Fulham (18,000), Crystal Palace (22,000), QPR (14,000), Millwall (11,000), Brentford (6,000), and Leyton Orient in div 4 (4,000). Berlin with its main clubs, (apart from Hertha) couldn't draw that sort of support.

 

I guess we'll see a new record next season should Köln get promoted and Gladbach staying in the league with Bochum, Rostock and Freiburg going down.

(unless Fürth get's promoted of course. But I guess they would have to play some games in Nuremberg)

 

Eintracht Frankfurt's new stadium will look nice; if they get promoted they will have a good attendance too.

 

It would also help if Hannover would lower it's prices and play soccer worth watching

 

I think you're asking for too much here.

 

Also Bayern will have their new Allainz Arena, which will surley give them an attendance boom

 

I expect them to end with 17 out of 17 matches sold out - full stop

 

after the last gameday:

1 Borussia Dortmund----------77.235
2 FC Schalke 04--------------61.341
3 FC Bayern München---------53.294
4 Borussia M'gladbach---------49.183
5 Hamburger SV--------------48.927
6 Hertha BSC Berlin-----------48.486
7 VfB Stuttgart---------------42.049
8 Werder Bremen--------------39.853
9 Hannover 96----------------35.989
10 1.FC Kaiserslautern---------35.601
11 1.FC Nürnberg--------------30.264
12 VfL Bochum-----------------26.376
13 VfL Wolfsburg---------------24.035
14 SC Freiburg-----------------22.894
15 Bayer 04 Leverkusen---------22.500
16 DSC Arminia Bielefeld--------22.328
17 1.FSV Mainz 05-------------20.159
18 Hansa Rostock--------------20.053

average attendance: 37.809

With the Allianz Arena, Cologne, Duisburg and Frankfurt/1860 there will be more than 40.000 next year IMO

 

That's about the number we get when our visitors don't travel well. Other than that, there's usually closer to 80,000 at the Westfalenstadion.

 

Yes, only yes, I hope Frankfurt came up.

 

11.464.764 was the full att. in BuLi.

In 306 games it was an att. of 37.565.

More than the whole the world.

1st. Dotmund with 1.315.008 av. 77.353
2nd. is Schalke with 1.062.791 av. 61.341.
The rest dosnt`t matter.
3rd Munich, 4th Leverkusen, hahgaahaha.

They doesnt matter.
15th. Leverkusen. Near Wolfsvburg, but Leverkusen ist selled out, wolfbsurg too??

 

season tickets sold at the moment:

1. Borussia Dortmund (Vorjahr 48 000) 44 000
2. Schalke 04 (Vorjahr 42 800) 43 935 (Rekord)
3. Bayern München (Vorjahr 22 000) 35 000 (Rekord)
4. Bor. M’gladbach (Vorjahr 22 000) 26 000 (Rekord)
5. 1. FC Köln (Vorjahr 20 500) 25 500 (Rekord)
6. Hamburger SV (Vorjahr 23 900) 24 700 (Rekord)
7. Werder Bremen (Vorjahr 25 000 ) 24 000
8. 1. FC Kaiserslautern (Vorjahr 21 000) 18 100
9. Hertha BSC (Vorjahr 15 000) 18 000
10. Bayer Leverkusen (Vorjahr 17 000) 17 000
11. Hannover 96 (Vorjahr 14 000) 16 000 (Rekord)
12. VfB Stuttgart (Vorjahr 15 000) 15 500
13. Eintr. Frankfurt (Vorjahr 10 000) 15 000 (Rekord)
14. Mainz 05 (Vorjahr 14 500) 15 000 (Rekord)
15. MSV Duisburg (Vorjahr 5000) 12 000 (Rekord)
16. 1. FC Nürnberg (Vorjahr 9000) 8000
17. Arm. Bielefeld (Vorjahr 7800) 7800
18. VfL Wolfsburg (Vorjahr 7800) 7000

 

No more season tickets avaible,
Werder stops at 25000 as every year.

 

And I think in the prop, England is better or IO'm wrong?????

Hi Hi HI Hi

 

Booh, the P-League has 95,000 att. av.. ok you win.

Nur die besten sterben jung.

 

Es gibt tausende von Leuten die meinen Ihr seid gut, ich bin einer der wenigen der meint Ihr seid Scheiße.

 

Also Bayern doesn't sell more than 35k tickets.

 

I rate the Premier League very high, but in attendance we are world champion.

What did i read today:
Moore from Gladbach to Newcastle.
That´s a day to celebrate
one guy less in the league, who can´t play football.

 

Didnt realise there was a UK league nowadays?????

 

95.000 attendace average, hä?

The biggest stadium of a Premier Legue team is Old Trafford with about 70.000.

 

some numbers to matchday 1, according to kicker.de

66000 at Schalke
61210 at Bayern
50000 in Cologne
42000 in Frankfurt
41877 in Hamburg
40473 in Hannover
38156 in Bremen
28443 in Duisburg
23368 in Wolfsburg

that adds up to 391527 and leads to an average attendance of 43503

not too bad, but Im sure there will be matchdays with higher numbers this upcoming season...

greetz, Äppler

 

I know there's going to be around 80,000 at the Westfalenstadion alone next weekend!

DERBY TIME!!!!

 

which ones were sell-outs?

 

Hanover wasn't, we have a cap of 49k
I'd guess FCB, FCS, Köln and Frankfurt.
at www.stadiumwelt.de you can read what the cap of each stadium is though.