General Football Thread - Any other business

Discussion in 'England' started by Marcho Gamgee, Apr 12, 2018.

  1. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Ancelotti wants Cassmiro to be a big part of Brazil for the next year, He can still play decently but he is not what he was,
     
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  2. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    With 5 minutes plus stoppage time left and the game petering out you have to be swapping out one of the 3 centre backs for a offensive player surely. They had a period between 60-75 where they were getting joy but the last 10 its reverted back to pre-season intensity.

    With all due respect to him Dalot being a like for like swap at wing back seems unlikely to produce much different to what we've seen
     
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  3. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Man United have some serious rebuilding to do in the summer
     
  4. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    That was awful. Both teams were poor, and the ref not much better.
     
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  5. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    A dire and marginal game. I suppose if you want a grander narrative it was Ange that gave up his philosophy and came out on top.
     
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  6. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    Happy for Spurs fans who have put up with a lot of flack and first European trophy for a long time. Certainly it'll mean a lot more to them than the United fans who've still been winning the non CL and premier league trophies pretty regularly.

    A truly dreadful game though, a performance by Spurs that would have lost to almost any other team but United, who surely need to get rid of Amorim now.
     
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  7. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Great advert for the bottom quarter of the Premier League
     
  8. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Very long way back for Amorim now. Could've been the sort of night that acts as a springboard to improvement but you can argue he should probably be sacked now.
     
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  9. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    And on Sunday they have a Villa who will be going all out with a chance to get 5th.
     
  10. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    Not sure there’s much riding on this game for United now!
     
  11. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Pride. Another poor performance could finish off Almrion off surely.
     
  12. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    I’m really not sure the game against Villa will have any impact on his fate. He’s staying or gone regardless.
     
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  13. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Opps. They have run out of medals. Son and couple of others didn’t get one!
     
  14. ht_hu96

    ht_hu96 Member+

    Middlesbrough
    England
    May 23, 2019
    Now imagine, just imagine Amorim was English….
     
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  15. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Sacking ten haag for this guy was a huge mistake
     
  16. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    The problem for United now is that if they back Amorim (as they've said they're going to) it becomes potentially cataclysmic if it goes wrong. Giving Ten Hag as much money to spend as they did has set them back years and put their finances in disarray. If they spend whatever they can now afford on players for Amorim's system and it doesn't work, they're going to be really deep in the mud.

    It's all well and good saying Amorim needs "his players" but you have to show you're worth investing in. I feel very bad for Amorim because he seems like a good guy but it's hard to see this going well at this point.
     
  17. ht_hu96

    ht_hu96 Member+

    Middlesbrough
    England
    May 23, 2019
    They’re still appallingly run under INEOS, nothing has changed.

    They should be creating an overarching philosophy that the club is going to follow, and then buying players and hiring managers to fit that.

    They’re not, they’re still doing it the wrong way round. You can just about get away with having a model where you give the manager carte blanche if it’s Pep, Klopp, Ferguson etc but not for coaches the calibre of Amorim or Ten Hag.
     
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  18. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Regarding bianchneri

    The hypocrisy of the Welsh

    You don't get publicly invited unless you accepted first. There was a video on X with the manager discussing his callup but I could not be bothered wasting my energy listening. I went through this nonsense with Immanuel Feyi-Wabosa in the rugby. Just can't rationalise it - he fights hard for Wales at age grades, kisses the badge on the shirt - totally committed, gets invited to train with the senior squad and then a country who have not invested one second of their time in him and who are absolutely irrelevant in football calls him up and he agrees while on duty with us. I know his mum is Canadian but its a bit astonishing as he has a clear pathway with us, a passionate country fan base with us and is considering giving that up to play 'soccer' in a country that does not care that much for football. You get high intensity international matches of a high standard in that Cardiff stadium with that fanbase and he'd consider trading that in with Vancouver - I dread to think how many fans bother to show up for run of the mill international. Plus the travel involved with playing for Canada would be very disruptive and he would be much more marketable playing for us than them, so I assume this is not driven by his agent.


    I am not a hater and you should always go with your heart but I just do not understand this. I saw a social media post saying his dad was Italian and his mum Canadian but is that really true as it seems odd for them to settle down in Wales and bring up a family.
     
  19. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
     
  20. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Nice fans have hated INEOS throughout their tenure there so we could say it was inevitable. Even if they got every decision perfect from here on out it'd still take 3-5 years for them to become a title contender again. With their record of decision-making, there's probably a chance they go another 10 or even 15 years without seriously challenging for the PL title.

    I didn't watch much of Ugarte at Sporting or PSG, but pretty much everyone who did seemed to say that he'd be a crap signing. How INEOS thought it was a good idea to splash £60m on him is beyond me when the average fan almost unanimously thought it was a poor deal. The Parisian press was rejoicing when the transfer went through. If these are the people making the decisions I really don't see a way out for United.
     
  21. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021


    Bet they win the Club World Cup
     
  22. TRS-T

    TRS-T Member

    Aug 21, 2014
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    I hope Bellingham can take his 10 shirt. Then maybe Rudiger could take 5 and Trent could have 22.
     
  23. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    As expected deschamps cap-tying players. Cherki called up
     
  24. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Deschamps doesn’t really do that.
     
  25. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    He does
     

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