General Football Thread - Any other business

Discussion in 'England' started by Marcho Gamgee, Apr 12, 2018.

  1. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Massive lack in quality in the goalkeeper department in the PL. Raya and Vicario are supposed to be two of the best but they don’t provide any presence in their box.
     
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  2. Gaz811

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    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    Still think it was a sideways move getting Raya over Ramsdale.
     
  3. Gaz811

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    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    The De Zerbi fanboys have gone quiet on twitter and the like.
     
  4. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
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    They talking about 6 times the revenue now which would mean no change.

    And that Sir Jim Ratcliffe and that the Glazers might be split over it - Sir Jim opposed and the Galzers in favour tA cynic would say because it would mean more profits due to money that can’t be spent)?

    I wonder if the slow start for Saudi has meant they is not the concern of a mass exodus to Saudi over wages they was last summer.
     
  5. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
     
  6. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
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    Odd that Newcastle supported it but Villa didn’t. Villa’s owner is not a bottomless pit of money like Newcastle. Bith ciubs need to do more spending (Newcastle more so).

    Chelsea will suffer more than Man City if they win things. Man City’s wages might actually go down this year due to no winning CL bonus (and possibly no winning League bonus).


    The PFA don’t seem happy - that could delay this and cause issues

    Lot of speculation this will see clubs turn against buying from with the PL and to an extent the championship and lots more cheap South American and minor European league deals.
     
  7. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    Considering only a few clubs will ever be in a position to exceed such a cap, I really can't see how there would be any large impact on transfers.
     
  8. manimal

    manimal Red Card

    Dec 23, 2018

    So they could potentially buy lesser English players..... But could they in contrast not also use their (English) academy players more then??
     
  9. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021


    The PFA are going to be a big stumbling block. They very much will fight for players to become even richer.
     
  10. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    It might put Real, PSG and Bayern a bit ahead as well as Saudi.
     
  11. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    They might. But equally they might go the cheap buying abroad Brighton route.

    I think this will prevent any rules on capping academy sizes coming anytime soon. They would not likely get Spurs. Arsenal or Liverpool backing something like this along with the four who didn’t vote for it.
     
  12. horrisengleton

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    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Valencia, Spain
    Real Madrid don't have the cash to spend wildly like that anymore, it's partly why they want the Super League. In the last decade even Spurs have outspent them. They're still extremely rich and the fact they're most players' number 1 destination and can convince players to run down their deals and join them for free means they can still monopolise elite players do a degree, but they can't spend on Man City's and PSG's level. Most of their spending now is financed by player sales.

    Bayern are even less financially competitive. The Kane transfer was unprecedented for them and one of their board members said the other day that they can only do a transfer like that once every blue moon.

    In terms of net spend, Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea, PSG and Arsenal (to a slightly lesser degree than the others) have outspent everyone else by a distance since 2013/14.
     
  13. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Will be interesting to see Saudi this summer. Everyone they have been linked with is 30+. Will they try again for some bigger younger names.

    Real are setting themselves up for a CL dominance if they don’t leave for the Super League (They don’t seem to be getting anywhere getting many clubs to join it).

    Of course if a super league happens it could have a big impact on international football. While FIFA and UEFA wouldn’t be able to ban players some FA’s would be under heavy pressure to do so.
     
  14. horrisengleton

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    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Valencia, Spain
    Yeah that project is still the lingering question. Reports of player welfare over there aren't good and it seems like those who've gone over there aren't really enjoying it so I'm not sure it's got the legs to really take off like it looked it might. They'll probably still remain a presence though.
     
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  15. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Even Benzema seems to hates it there and he felt like a good fit.

    I wonder if football’s is one of the lesser suited sports for Saudi as the players have to live there most of the year rather than just flying in and out for competitions like tennis and golf. It’s hard to keep up the pampering and luxury permanently to keep people happy.
     
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  16. Fireburn47

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    Nov 5, 2021
     
  17. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    I wonder what affect teams moving more and more to appearance based contracts with no injury clause will have on the international game - where an injury playing for international team could cost a player plenty of money and the FIFA injury compensation going to the club not the player.
     
  18. Fireburn47

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  20. ht_hu96

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    Middlesbrough
    England
    May 23, 2019
    After replays getting scrapped, and now the increasing talk in recent weeks around PL games in the USA and other places in the world, what is going on with this independent regulator? It really feels like we’re approaching a critical moment as the Americans and other hyper capitalist owners driving the PL greed seem to now be buoyed and in a mood to try other land grabs. They really need to expedite the introduction of this before even more damaging changes get introduced to the game here.
     
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  21. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    It’s due to be passed over the next few months. It doesn’t have power over replays - they are claims that power could be seen by UEFA and FIFA as goverment interference. https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/27532521/england-world-cup-ban-fifa-fa-cup-replays/
     
  22. manimal

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    Dec 23, 2018
    Still curious.... Would that PL salary cap be good or bad from a England perspective speaking for the national team / youth development /PL academies / English talents ???
     
  23. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    It's hard to say. Many on here thought Brexit would be good for England youth players as there'd be less foreign players in academies. Personally I don't think it has been good as the English academy teams are now behind other European nations that do have more foreign players. It has also caused a lot of competition for the best English players so smaller academies get absolutely battered in some games because their teams are now weaker. It has caused a reduction in the overall level which I think is a net negative.

    I do think that the new FFP rules and salary cap could see Premier League sides looking to The Championship more though. We've seen with Adam Wharton and Morgan Rogers that there are young English players in that division that can step up easily. I think there are many more like them and some in League One as well.
     
  24. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    It might but with the multi club model growing I think some clubs will looks for cheaper options from abroad. The championship is often not that cheap.
     
  25. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
     

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