General Football Thread - Any other business

Discussion in 'England' started by Marcho Gamgee, Apr 12, 2018.

  1. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    From what I can see, they have a similar wage budget to the top Championship clubs
     
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  2. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    It is not just spending power or wage bill. Foreign clubs used to succeed by being shrewdly analytical and using the South American market well. That edge seems to have receded.

    Most (obviously some exceptions) PL clubs are a lot more shrewd with their signings nowadays. You only need three or four shrewd PL clubs and they can pretty much take a big chunk of the most talented options off the market.

    Then you have these multi-club partnerships pretty much hoarding talent.

    Also, Spain used to benefit from the relegation format in European competitions. Now that is dead they don’t have the opportunity for a CL level team to compete at a lower level.
     
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  3. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    Tony Bloom and Matthew Benham must play a significant part.
     
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  4. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Full findings from the Southampton case - https://www.efl.com/news/2026/may/21/efl-statement--written-reasons-relating-to-southampton-fc/

    If I was a Southampton fan I'd be fuming about how they handled this.

    They lied to the EFL in their initial response to the charges.
    They argued that as they admitted the offences they should only get a £200k fine and a reprimand - the same sanction as Leeds received before the rules were changed.
    They also claimed they got no advantage from the offences, which leads to the question "why even do it then?".
    There's a suggestion that junior staff were threatened with the sack if they didn't cooperate.

    The report describes a "contrived and determined plan from the top down to gain a competitive advantage", fully authorised by Eckert.
     
  5. ColUFan

    ColUFan Member

    Colchester United
    England
    Apr 22, 2022
    Surely Eckert has to go now.
     
  6. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    I'm surprised he hasn't already gone. Probably depends on his contract, and it may be cheaper to sack him if he gets a ban from the FA investigation.
     
  7. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Eckert was Germany’s ‘opposition analyst’ when they won the 2014 World Cup.

    Germany’s potential quarter-final opponents were complaining of spying in the early stages of the tournament.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/27853374
     
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  8. Placid Casual

    Placid Casual Member+

    Apr 2, 2004
    Bentley's Roof
    He was also on Barnsleys staff when they made the play offs the other year. Then faded
     
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  9. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Clearly it's much easier to make your name as an analyst when you have access to more data than everyone else.
     
  10. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    #5810 MrSnrub, May 21, 2026
    Last edited: May 21, 2026
    I thought they'd at least suspend before the appeal to at least make it at least look like it was being taken seriously.

    Given the panel has blamed him, it seems he'll have a long ban coming. The Canada womens team boss got at a 12 month ban from FIFA for spying. He's arguably going to be in a worse position given there's evidence of this being systematic in his approach, and his use of interns to do it.
     
  11. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    There were reports from credible journalists that if they'd won their appeal then they'd have kept him on. Which along with them lying to the EFL in their response to the charges pretty much sums up the club for me.

    Maybe they should just fine him. That's what they argued the sanction should be for these offences.
     
  12. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    City have confirmed Pep is leaving.
     
  13. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    Euro 2028 winner as manager of England, it is written.
     
  14. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Yeah, unless Tuchel goes on a trophy spree I think it would be a surprise if he's not the next England manager.
     
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  15. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    Looking forward to seeing Olly Watkins playing leftback and John Stones right wing.
     
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  16. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    On a side note if he were to become England manager it would help us massively with dual nationals.
     
  17. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    If Tuchel falls the mood will probably be must hire English. Plus Pep has the possibility of damage from Man City’s charges as well as his political comments (Including the extremely sensitive Israel/ Palestine topic.)
     
  18. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    Not if Guardiola's interested, be serious.
     
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  19. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Maybe but Pep has more downsides than Tuchel.
     
  20. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Maybe just the start of Southampton's legal bills for the summer.



    I also saw someone suggest that Boro take them to court as there's a promotion clause from the Finn Azaz transfer, but only if they win the playoffs.
     
  21. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Let me guess, he won’t get the job because he was City manager and the 115 charges are all Pep’s fault so he can’t get the job. Something on these lines no doubt?
     
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  22. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Well it would potentially be a Factor for the FA.
     
  23. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    No it wouldn’t as it’s got nothing to do with Pep, he’s not in charge of the finances.
     
  24. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    True but I am not sure everyone will accept that. Particularly if Man a city do get any point deduction/ other notable sanction.
     
  25. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Yeah, I don’t know what to say at this point if people are that stupid to put any blame for what went on, I think even before he was manager.
     

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