General Football Thread - Any other business

Discussion in 'England' started by Marcho Gamgee, Apr 12, 2018.

  1. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    What sort of punishment could Southampton be looking at if found guilty as presumably it’s going to be more than just a fine if they have added rules since the Leeds spying issue? I mean is it really worth the risk if getting caught means some quite severe punishment heading your way.
     
  2. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    It could only be a much larger fine or potential points deduction if it's intended to be more severe than the punishment Leeds received, but the former is pretty much irrelevant if Southampton get promoted and the latter can't be enforced now the playoffs are set.
     
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  3. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
     
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  4. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
     
  5. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Yes he is.
     
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  6. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Belgium must be pissed losing all these duals
     
  7. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
  8. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    I mean the details on this are quite bad. Destined to be linking up with MG at Marseille next season.
     
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  9. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    More likely playing for an HMP team.
     
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  10. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    This doesn't look good for Southampton. The bigger question is whether this was a one off, or something they've been doing for a while.

     
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  11. GermanBlade

    GermanBlade Member

    Sheffield United
    Mar 17, 2025
    Wow! That´s a decision I think not many players in his position and age would be willing to make but good for him I guess.
    On the other hand, that´s a very damning sign for Belgium imo losing yet another one of their top prospects to an African nation that´s not Morocco, not even mentioning European nations. And very early signs but seems like Eboue isn´t interested in representing them either so far despite not yet being eligible for England in competitive matches.
    This might be a stretch but could Belgium losing so many duals have something to do with their history/national identity (or rather lack thereof!) where a very significant amount of people don´t view themselves as Belgians but rather Dutch in combination with not having won a title?
     
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  12. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Something seems to be happening. They losing players to countries that normally take a long while to get players to switch.
     
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  13. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Southampton charged. Given that the EFL are looking to expedite this it feels like more than a fine is under consideration.

     
  14. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    I'm not really sure that the game tomorrow should be going ahead given this. There's plenty of time to reschedule both legs before the final.
     
  15. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Statement from Southampton - https://www.southamptonfc.com/en/news/article/club-statement-8th-may-2026
    That's a lawyers statement. If they had done nothing wrong it would be along the lines of ".....deny the charges and offer our full cooperation in clearing our name".

    I guess the EFL will be hoping for a big Boro win tomorrow, as they can then easily deal with it over time. If they don't do anything quickly, Southampton win the play-offs, and are shown to have been doing this for months then there'll be a whole load of law suits from impacted parties.
     
  16. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Ah yes, the old "throw someone under the bus" excuse. I doubt this will hold up.

     
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  17. GermanBlade

    GermanBlade Member

    Sheffield United
    Mar 17, 2025
    Can´t understand Bayern going for players like Gordon and now De Katelaere as both are notably below the required level if they are serious about wanting to win the CL next season. To be fair, they have quite some players below this level in their squad already; it´s enough to win the Bundesliga but when you need options off the bench against the best teams everyone will notice their shortcomings.
     
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  18. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    It's puzzling to me, especially when they said they're only going to be signing top talent from now on and focus on their academy development.

    With Gordon, I can only imagine it's an attempt to maximise Kane's final years. As well as being a threat in behind Gordon will press and defend like a mad man and make up for Kane's deficiencies in that regard. At least in certain Bundesliga games I can imagine Bayern playing them both together in the middle.
     
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  19. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Ngumoha starting for Liverpool. Colwill starting for Chelsea. James back on bench
     
  20. Catenaccio88

    Catenaccio88 Member+

    England
    Sep 23, 2023
    Chelsea must be kicking themselves over losing Ngumoha. They've spent billions (with leveraged debt) on a squad of players who for the most part, wont even recoup what they originally spent/invested.
     
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  21. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Given the first half performance, I think Southampton would have been better focusing on their own training sessions rather than MIddlesbrough's.
     
  22. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    #5547 Fireburn47, May 10, 2026
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    So it’s quite possible the title and relegation are both decided by VAR. Could be a bold way for it to bow out if it is axed.
    Luck is not on West Ham’s side in this relegation battle.
     
  23. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    #5548 Fireburn47, May 10, 2026
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    Him and Henry Wjnter are swimming against the tide I think there. Most of the media is backing any club willingly to do an Wolves and start the vote to remove it.

    If the authorities want VAR to not someday cause a major riot they need to at least drop the clear and obvious which is never followed. Otherwise someday fans somewhere will snap and it will be bad,
     
  24. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    #5549 Fireburn47, May 10, 2026
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    Mark Bullingham likely promised FIFA he’d get the challenge system into it to trial it going by how he went on about it and I don’t think one Championship club said anything but never never never. Be interesting to see what Mark Bullingham says next time he talks about VAR. If he tries to get into it the FA cup earlier rounds and still falls it would be humiliating.
     
  25. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    #5550 Fireburn47, May 10, 2026
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    The IFAB needs to mandate that as soon as VAR is declared the officials are fully on camera and on the screens in the stadium. Everyone at cricket and rugby knows what is going on because it’s fully transparent, If clubs don’t want to put a screen up then tell them they can’t play matches at that stadium till they do. And put a timer on screen so everyone knows exactly how long each decision took.Ive seen people saying 3/4/5/6 mins for today’s decision.

    I think through by the time West Ham come back up (I don’t have much hope of miracle) it either be gone or radically changed (Challenge, Time Limits, Full Communication, No Screens with the VAR official having the final say Rugby style).

    Funny that Darren England has been the official in the biggest VAR stories the PL has had,
     

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