General Football Thread - Any other business

Discussion in 'England' started by Marcho Gamgee, Apr 12, 2018.

  1. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Infrastructure was probably the wrong word on my part, I more meant facilities. They have a training centre and national stadiums that are European standard in quality, and always put their team up in good quality hotels etc. They're a bit of an outlier in CAF for that, and I do think that plays a major role in recruiting players from Europe.

    But yeah, what you say about Moroccans not wanting to play for the Netherlands as a result of at-home discrimination makes sense. It's something that gets reported in other European countries too.
     
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  2. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
     
  3. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
  4. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
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    Feels like the big debates for the FA this summer will be if to keep VAR as it is and if to go to penalties after 90 minutes at least before the Semi’s. Feel like VAR in particular could be swapped for the Challenge version.
     
  5. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021


     
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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
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  7. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018


    Years in prison for Joseph you'd have to assume. The victim is in a 'serious but stable' condition so it looks a very serious incident and he's on a suspended sentence as it is. Barton is 43 and his
    co-accused is 50, imagine behaving like that in middle age.
     
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  8. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    He's a sociopath really. Saw a clip of him not long ago playing down his brother planting an axe in the head of a young lad in an unprovoked, racially motivated murder as a "scrap", implying that his prison sentence was somehow unjust.

    It's also beyond humorous that he saw it fit to name his podcast the "common sense pod". Not an ounce of self-awareness.
     
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  9. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Deserves everything coming his way and surely prison time! Just a nasty, horrible individual.
     
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  10. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    Should rename it "The common assault Podcast"
     
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  11. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    The rumour is there was a Baseball bat involved.
     
  12. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    I wonder if his mate is a part of the Liverpool underworld.
     
  13. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    The rumour is the guy he had the fight with brought the bat and Barton took it off him and beat the living shit out of him with it. No idea if its true.
     
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  14. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    It's not been Barton's week really. He's also having to pay out over £300k in damages to Eni Aluko.
     
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  15. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    The problem with Barton is when he was in the football world he got away with all kinds of shit. Now he's having to live in the world they are not being covered up anymore.
     
  16. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
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    More on Barton. Btw it was his fault. Don't agree with the tweet but posting because of the voice mail.

     
  17. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    Maybe some mitigation if true but you can’t defend yourself with disproportionate violence under UK law.
     
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  18. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    I can't see how he doesn't go to jail. Sounds like he beat the other guy half to death.
     
  19. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    He’s going to prison (he’ll probably be remanded in custody till the trial) but from the reports on the condition of the victim he should’ve been charged with attempted murder, all things being equal. It seems he’s received a lesser charge of ‘wounding with intent’ so it becomes a question of proportionality, how much threat was he really facing and was the response proportional.
     
  20. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    I've got no sympathy for someone who pulls a weapon and then has it used on them.
     
  21. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    Surely it depends on proportionality? If they’re all drunk in a pub, the two agree to a fight. One of them grabs a club but is too inebriated to effectively wield it and then the less drunk of the two easily disarms them and beats the other near to death with it, surely you would say that’s disproportional violence worthy of a prison sentence?
     
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  22. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    I wonder what happened before hand for it all to kick off. They are both Middle aged men ffs.
     
  23. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    This is Joey Barton we’re talking about, the guy would have a fight with a wet paper bag if he thought it looked funny at him.
     
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  24. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    Are you asking me about how the law should work or whether I would care? I would not care, but the law probably should.
     
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  25. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    Spurs 3-0 down after 15 minutes. They have given up on football. This season will be catastrophic for them. I wouldn't be surprised if they don't come back up any time soon.
     

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