General Football Thread - Any other business

Discussion in 'England' started by Marcho Gamgee, Apr 12, 2018.

  1. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Good news for the Newcastle who seem to be building a new 200 million state of the art training facility. It’s behind a paywall but maybe @Fireburn47 can access it.

     
  2. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    The players will like it. It’s a lot nearer to where they mostly live in the richest parts of the North East.
     
  3. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    It's not exactly a trek currently. The current training ground is 10 miles from Ponteland and 25 miles from Hexham. The new one is around 5 or 6 miles closer. They avoid a bit of traffic for the last few miles in Newcastle, but that's about it.
     
  4. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    That is genuinely one of the worst uses of VAR I've ever seen. Is clear and obvious even part of the use criteria now? Took three hours to chalk a goal off for something completely subjective. Just a bunch of incompetent morons officiating games in this country.
     
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  5. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Yeah, it’s quite mental! Any reason to disallow a goal and they will. Just nothing surprises me anymore with football an it’s use of VAR!
     
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  6. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    It's ridiculous. Some of it is main character syndrome/power tripping I think, whether that's conscious or subconscious. They're not supposed to look for reasons to disallow goals but that's exactly what they're doing.
     
  7. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Clear and Obvious doesn’t apply to Offsides.
     
  8. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    Surely that's the actual offside line call , rather than determining an infringement as whether someone is active?
     
  9. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Yes. It was a subjective call as the ref was sent to review.
     
  10. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Maybe through even then the lines are drawn semi automatically (I presume that was used tonight) and then it needs deciding. Active or not is not that common really.
     
  11. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    You sound like you haven’t seen the incident?
     
  12. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    I heard it on the radio.
     
  13. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    #4213 Fireburn47, Jan 13, 2026
    Last edited: Jan 13, 2026
    I have a feeling a big howler will happen in the FA cup next round. Normally just after a VAR debate there tends to be a big howler in a non VAR using match in the Championship or a cup or in the women’s game.

    And logically if they was a manager challenge system Newcastle probably would have challenged it because pundits and commentators did immediately wonder about the goal.
     
  14. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    Search for it on twitter, it's pretty obviously a subjective decision.
     
  15. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
     
  16. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Oh the semi automated offside system broke. I thought it did but the radio commentary made no reference to that being the main reason for the time it took. If it worked the stoppage would have been 2 and half minutes at most.

    And the decision itself has been polarising really - a lot of the pundits think it was legitimately called off and are just complaining about the time while most of the comments don’t think it was offside anyway.

    Particualy love ones saying fans didn’t ask for for VAR - I remember when everyone was constantly asking for it and in the Women’s game players, managers and pundits are still always asking for it.
     
  17. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Chelsea forced the club's head of medical, Bryce Cavanagh, to sit in the technical area during games after Enzo Maresca allegedly ignored advice surrounding injured players - Daily Mail
     
  18. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
  19. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
  20. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    The whole idea seems rather silly, why should attackers be favoured over defenders to such an extent? It'd basically make it possible for attackers to play a step ahead of defenders.

    Part of an unpleasant trend of sports increasingly trying to entice increasingly attention-span fried audiences by increasing the action at the expense of the sport. Although even then it is debatable whether any increase in goals such a changing in ruling would allow would be offset by teams playing more defensively.
     
  21. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    I think that is why the FA are not on board with the proposals and seemingly are trying to push for a Torso rule compromise. Unfortunately FIFA tend to often end up getting their way.
     
  22. ht_hu96

    ht_hu96 Member+

    Middlesbrough
    England
    May 23, 2019
    City pushing so hard for Guehi and Semenyo this window does make me feel this is Pep’s last season.

    The way they’ve recruited in these last two windows in general has felt very uncitylike and very win now at all costs.

    When I say it’s uncitylike I’m not even getting at the profile or age profile of the players they are signing, but more the refusal to back down in negotiations and get the deal over the line no matter what.

    Previously, they were always happy to walk away and/or move on to their second or third choice. Whereas there now seems to be an element of urgency to their recruitment. It feels, at least to me, that their board have a strong sense this will be Pep’s last season and they are trying to leave no stone unturned in their tilts at the PL and CL.
     
  23. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Equally they could be thinking they will be a lot less attractive or get a transfer embargo as part of sanctions.
     
  24. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
     
  25. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Glasner leaving Palace at the end of the season.
     

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