Does the fact that Barton is only 35 and probably has two or three more World Cups ahead of him mitigate against him?
Probably. Being El Salvadoran and having both a Mexican and American in front of him probably hurts more. Ramos is gone after this and Barton enters 2030 ahead of Dickerson or anyone else who rises from USSF. Barring injury or expected retirement, it's hard to see how he doesn't enter 2030 as CONCACAF's clear #1.
This is the kind of stuff that I find to be extremely problematic. I mean, stuff like this creates a direct disincentive towards making controversial calls that would arouse the ire of teams who are likely to participate in big games. I like to believe the individual referees are strong enough to not let that play into their headspace at all. But the system simply should not allow this situation in the first place.
I don't think Benquerenca was that surprising. He did officiate a CL semi-final that year. Maybe surprising in that he got a knockout match while De Bleeckere didn't get one. Also, it looks like FIFA indirectly followed the quarterfinal countries have their referees sent home policy that year. You can maybe make a case for Batres. However, he was a previous World Cup referee. But you would have thought Archundia would have slotted into that quarterfinal spot for CONCACAF and Batres gets a round of 16. Side note: Anyone know the story of what happened to Archundia? He was one of the favorites for the World Cup Final (Webb himself said he viewed him as his main contender) and didn't get a knockout match at all. Another side note: How many referees did what Batres did? Go to a World Cup, do a knockout game, then, miss the next one, only to get back to the following one and do a knockout game?
Pinheiro was a CL SF referee this year, too. Sometimes there are surprising CL SF referees. I think based on FIFA pedigree and who was available (but maybe not available or ruled out in the CL) the two Portuguese referees do stand out in this list.
CL semi-final referee good enough to get a World Cup quarterfinal, but a CL Final referee not good enough to get a group stage match...
He ended up with the third-place match. So it looks like he was kept aside as the main candidate for the Final, but something overturned that in the end? Perhaps Webb performed so well that the committee felt they had to go with him?
Not that I think Said Martinez is near the top of CONCACAF, but where does he go from here? Do we see him end up in MLS like Montero?
He's only 34. Again, barring early retirement or injury, it looks like he'd be around for a bit and in a great spot to head to at least the next World Cup. Remember, if anyone goes to MLS as a full-time referee, they give up refereeing the US and Canada in international play (if not give up refereeing internationally altogether). That's a heavy hit to take. The Faghani play really isn't there in CONCACAF.
Actually, the more I think about this... Elfath refereed Canada in WCQ, didn't he? I think maybe Penso did, too (or Nations League). Maybe I'm wrong here. Maybe this is exactly the sort of play that would help Barton's or Martinez's career. Of course, they'd have to want to move. PSRA would have to want to be accommodating. And you'd need some guarantees from CONCACAF (and probably the FMF) about which matches they could still be assigned to. Lot of "what ifs" or conditions, but it's not as crazy of an idea as I initially thought.
Does El Slavador have VAR in their pro leagues? I actually kind of wonder if one of the things that makes Barton’s somewhat unique style is if he still regularly works games with no VAR. I know it is not necessarily the consensus view, but seeing a handful of non-VAR CCC games versus MLS games with VAR, I do think that there are more of the dark arts practiced when you take VAR away. So if it’s the case that Barton often does games without VAR, I wonder if moving to MLS would actually kind of make it harder to make a name for himself as the CONCACAF guy you trust on matches where one or both teams are working the ref as hard as they are working against the other team.
When’s the last time CAF didn’t get any whistles from the R16 onward? ETA: 2022, apparently. Did realize CAF wasn’t getting at least a token knockout match every year
Looks also like no CAF whistles at all in 2006 and 2010. So this century, the only names are al-Ghandour, Sikazwe, and Haimoudi?
Oh, it's actually Diedhiou over Sikazwe! I mistakenly confused the two. I thought Sikazwe warranted a match in 2018 but it went in the other direction and I never have really corrected that in my own head, I think.
I still enjoyed Atcho this year. Hope he sticks around. And maybe Artan can get his visa approved by Morocco, at the least, and Spain & Portugal at the most.
If we're going to talk CAF referees, Beida is only 34 and might have been the hard-luck loser here due to one OFR. Abongile Tom is also 34 and was in the ascendancy this cycle but only got to reserve spot (but he's from a big country). Atcho is also 34. Even the older guard of Ghorbal, Amin Omar and Jayed are all in the 39-40 range. So for CAF, it will be interesting to see where things go. Traditionally there can be a lot of volatility in who ends up on top there. And if no one performed well enough to catch FIFA's eyes this time, maybe you'll just see a bunch of turnover and guys like Ghorbal and Jayed put out to pasture. But at the same time, you could see some repeats with decent pedigree--even for 2 or 3 more tournaments in the case of the younger corps. I'm sure @Mikael_Referee has insight!
It’s still nuts to me that Beida was jettisoned so quickly after one bad OFR miss and one that was basically undetectable to the human eye. I’m sure it will sting extra hard if FIFA finally abandons its (bad) “automatic rejection for 2 non-offside OFRs in a match” policy to appoint Faghani to the Final!
For whatever it's worth, Clattenburg claims that Mariani will likely get the Final. https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/world-cup-final-referee-fifa-37416134
For me, it’s pretty clear none of the three officials who have performed the best in this event-Turpin, Oliver, and Barton-will likely sniff the final. That’s a bummer.
I will not allow a Daily Mirror article that does not quote Clattenburg and explicitly concedes "Clattenburg did not name Mariani directly," to make me go to a Daily Mail podcast to listen to 40-60 miinutes to see if I can find what Clattenburg actually said. Nope, I've already done enough by clicking when I shouldn't have. I mean, this is a publication that is putting this trash out there: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/fifa-world-cup-michael-oliver-37414783 Either tabloid garbage, Clattenburg idiocy, or some lethal combination of the two. Oh, and as a reminder, you and I have refereed at as many World Cups as Clattenburg has.
This is the opposite of how Collina works! I'm surprised that someone who knows him as well as Clattenburg believes that (he is correct about the over-Italianisation though). The key dynamic in all this which everyone seems to have forgotten is that Massimo Busacca is, quite rightly in this instance, probably still furious with CAF that they kicked out his friend Noumandiez Doue as refereeing director at African level for very spurious reasons. Busacca is, to formulate it politely, not the kind of individual who stands his ground on matter x or y for conviction reasons, but on this matter my understanding is that he was absolutely steadfast. When Doue was still in post, Beida reached the quarterfinals of the Paris Olympics and was fourth official for the final. At this World Cup, he was clearly rejected by FIFA after one game and on fairly harsh grounds in my opinion (certainly, when he could have been given the benefit of the doubt). Something definitely went wrong in this tournament for that confederation because if you discount the third place playoff as a throw away game, we can say already that the CAF referee who ended up going the furthest was the 'collecting experience for 2030' guy. I can't speak to the lower levels of African football but the lesser-known refs from the last AFCON who impressed me (and should get a chance in FIFA youth events) were: Samuel Uwikunda (rwa), Clement Franklin Kpan (civ) and Messie Nkoudou (cgo). They will try to push a guy called Abdou Abdel Mefire from Cameroon but he is a poor referee. Abdelaziz Bouh from Mauritania is a very good official but behind Beida, it is hard to envisage him getting a chance at FIFA level.