Gaven looks to get into qualies

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by onefineesq, Jul 15, 2004.

  1. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Clip: Gaven said he could tell immediately upon entering camp with the national selection that the game moved that much faster than the MLS level -- which he is just now fully adjusting to.

    "I mean, it's not like it goes so fast that I can't handle it," he said. "But if you just switch it off for a second, you're going to pay for it."

    When the day was done and Gaven headed back to New Jersey, Arena complimented him on a job well done and told him there remains a chance of being recalled for one or more of the qualifiers.

    "He said I did well for the week and that he would definitely be checking my progress in MLS," Gaven said.



    Eddie Gaven definitely has a handle on the learning curve, that's for sure.

    He speaks like he's not going to let his new experiences overwhelm him at all.
     
  3. lmorin

    lmorin Member+

    Mar 29, 2000
    New Hampshire
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    --other--
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    United States
  4. kinstlinger

    kinstlinger Member

    Jun 20, 2002
    Baltimore
    Hey, let's hope he does.
    I saw him vs DCU a couple of weeks ago, and it was apparent that the kid knew what he was doing out there.
    He had some nifty moves with the ball.
    He's a different kind of player than Convey is, but I'd rate Gaven ahead in his development at this point.
     
  5. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No surprise to me either, but most people poo pooed the idea of him even getting called up in the friendly. Now he's talking about getting into qualifiers this year. how quickly the tide turns.
     
  6. smith07

    smith07 New Member

    Mar 26, 2004
    I hope he does get in. The kids has the X-factor, mogo, whatever.... i was disappointed he didnt play more in the poland game
     
  7. sregis

    sregis Member

    Nov 5, 1999
    Hoboken, USA
    actually, most people were pretty bullish on gaven's inclusion.
     
  8. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, i think the fault of that is the players who didn't put away the myriad chances we had in that game. if we could have gotten a couple of shots into the net in the first half, he would have gotten in much earlier.
     
  9. sregis

    sregis Member

    Nov 5, 1999
    Hoboken, USA
    that's one way to look at it. on the other hand, if the job isn't getting done, then make the change (esp. in a friendly)...and only bruce can do that.
     
  10. lmorin

    lmorin Member+

    Mar 29, 2000
    New Hampshire
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  11. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    well, i'm not disagreeing with you. Personally, I would have put him in at halftime, but i'm not the coach. Gaven said that Bruce told him that he would try his best to get him in the game, but also said that he wanted to win. Apparently, he thought that keeping the other players on the field gave him a better chance. That Gaven immediately came into the game and did some damage may have proven him wrong.
     
  12. smith07

    smith07 New Member

    Mar 26, 2004
    Agree... Gaven couldn't have made the attack any worse.. he could only make it better
     
  13. metro24freak

    metro24freak New Member

    Jul 5, 2004
    philly
    I love Gaven and all and he's a great player but I personally wouldn't put him in WCQ. I haven't seen the Poland game yet cause I'm not home right now so I can't make any comment on how he played then, but I just don't think it's a good idea to put him in something as big as WCQ yet. I mean he is only 17, that just seems kinda young but I guess if he is good enough. But neways I wouldn't put him in WCQ but I'm not the coach and Bruce usually does what's best.
     
  14. lmorin

    lmorin Member+

    Mar 29, 2000
    New Hampshire
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    --other--
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    United States
    Age means zilch. It is merely a number indicating years since birth and not an indicator of individual skill, tactical maturity or, in the case of older guys, being necessarily over the hill. It the ability to apply high quality skill and athleticism that count, regardless of age.
     
  15. Autogolazo

    Autogolazo BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 19, 2000
    Bombay Beach, CA
    IF we qualify a little early in this round for the Hex, I'd say trot Gaven out for the last games against Panama and Jamaica.

    If we're not qualified by then, Gaven may be in the lineup already from desperation.

    What he might need most are road minutes in El Salvador so he can get ready for Costa Rica/Honduras/Guatemala and, of course, the Azteca.
     
  16. cyberthoth

    cyberthoth Member+

    Nashville SC
    Aug 7, 2000
    Nashville, TN
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    in my opinion Gaven has a better chance of sending Reyna to the D-mid spot than Donovan. Both I think are qualified but Gaven beats defenders with instinct...Donovan beats them with athleticism.

    A midfield of

    Beasley Gaven Donovan
    Reyna

    would be imposing to say the least
     
  17. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He was damn effective and didn't look out of place at all.Set up some good chances and was called on an offside that was questioned by some observers.

    I can see this happening possibly in Jamaica definitely in a home qually.
     
  18. metx

    metx New Member

    Jun 3, 2004
    I'm glad you are not Arena
     
  19. United20

    United20 Member

    Feb 26, 2001
    New York City
    The US needs every bit of offense they can get, and if Gaven produces the rate is going - then bring him in. BA has never been afraid of allowing youngsters to start and count on their production. The Donovan/Beasely situation in WC '02 is a classic example, and this Gaven kid could be equally or better than those two. If the US qualifies, Gaven will be 19 years old, already 6' in height, stronger, and 4 years as a pro. Talk about primed for the bigtime.
     
  20. metro24freak

    metro24freak New Member

    Jul 5, 2004
    philly
    quote"I'm glad you are not Arena"

    The only reason I'm so hard on him and skepticle is cause he's my favorite player. With nebody else I really wouldn't care. If I'm watching soccer on TV I'll yell at him throught the TV five times more than I'll yell at ne1 else, except the ref.
     
  21. nicodemus

    nicodemus Member+

    Sep 3, 2001
    Cidade Mágica
    Club:
    PAOK Saloniki
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Forget Freddy-mania, catch Eddie-mania!
     
  22. nancyb

    nancyb Member

    Jun 30, 2000
    Falls Church, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Gaven seems cool as a cucumber in front of the net. Sounds good to me.
     
  23. Sinter

    Sinter New Member

    Oct 12, 2003
    New York City, U.S.A
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    damn straight! Freddy Who?
     
  24. nancyb

    nancyb Member

    Jun 30, 2000
    Falls Church, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    I hate to sound like an old bag, but would it kill you to correctly spell that word? Or is nebody some new word I haven't learned yet? You're saving yourself one character to either seem hip (not working) or ignorant. And while "ne1" saves more than 1 character, it's also ridiculous.
     
  25. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, i wouldn't expect him to make the first game for Jamaica, on the road. However, I can see him on the bench of the first home game (i'm too lazy to look it up). Personally, I WOULD have him on the bench against Jamaica, but BA seems to be a lot more conservative than I am. I just hope that he stays healthy. It seems to me that an injury is the only thing that could stop him from being a great player someday very soon.
     

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