........has been released on a free by West Ham. I for one am totally gobsmacked. Do they not know raw talent when they see it?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Gary Breen...... There's no such language as Gaelic. Clive Delaney got released as well.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Gary Breen...... well if you're going to teach me something by all means finish the course. What do ya call it then? Irish? Inquiring minds want to know.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Gary Breen...... Yep...well, we speak Irish. Gaelic is more a group of languages (Irish, Welsh, Manx, Scots Gaelic, Cornish, etc...). You learn something new every day
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Gary Breen...... Manx? Is that what the Liam Gallagher has been speakign all these years, cause it sure as **** isn't English. I can't stand Breen, btw... he is not of international standard, and has prolly had a big (for a team in the 1st Div with such debts) salary
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Gary Breen...... Welsh, Cornish are not Gaelic languages, they are however Celtic languages. THe Celtic languages are divided into 2 groups. Gaelic (Q Celtic)----- Irish, Scots Gaelic, Manx(which is no longer a living language.) Brythonic (P Celtic)----- Welsh, Cornish, Breton(spoken in Brittany in north western France.) Some would say that the languages in the Gaelic (Q Celtic) branch are not languages per se, but dialects as they are somewhat mutually intelligible. For example Donegal Irish (a dialect of Irish spoken in North West Ireland) is in many ways closer to the Gaelic spoken in the Westerns Isles of Scotland than it is to Munster Irish, which is spoken in the opposite end of Ireland. I'm not sure what particular tongue is spoken in Parkhead, but suffice to say that it's unintelligible to most.
thanks guys, I love this kinda stuff. one other thing I think I learned, correct me if I'm wrong. Nigel_Sausagepump was being sarcastic, wasn't he?? "I'm from Can-a-da and they think I'm slooow."
It was indeed a display of the lowest form of wit. Usually when you see the words "Gary Breen" and "raw talent" in the same sentence, you should smell a rather large rat. Unless of course the words "complete and utter lack of" are also in there somewhere.
i feel sorry for gary breen. i think he's a bit of an enigma, sure he's had a terrible season with west ham and i feel a strangely overwhelming compulsion to dislike the guy but he's done nothing to deserve the crap that's doled out to him by irish fans. let's be honest, for a limited player he's certainly makes the most of his talents. with a few exceptions he's played really well for us and he loves playing for ireland. if some people have a problem with him being in the team then it's the manager who should bear the brunt of any ire. i know there are people like o'brien (and to a lesser extent), o'shea and dunne who are seemingly better equipped to play in his position but mccarthy AND kerr both rate him enough to put him in the starting 11.
frankk - agree with your assessment. Breeno was great in the world cup. Yes, we all know his limitations, but can't we lay off him?
OK, so now Breen is off limits as well as Harte & Kilbane?! Fine. Duff is such a load of rubbish. The sooner we drop him the better!
Yeah your right, I don't see why anybody is off limits, as this is a forum for discussion & therefore you should be able to make your thoughts known. As far as I am concerned Kilbane deserves as much stick as can be dished out after his performances in the WC, Hartey is lacking basic defensive skills, but we have no-one else in his position to challenge him, as for Breen, he is a donkey, but seems to play well for Ireland. Everyone knows that the Cunningham/O'Shea is the best pairing at the back for us & unless Breen is playing 1st team football he should not be considered!!
*puts a line through Breen's name* Next up......Matt Holland, or for the Ipswich fans in the crowd......umm......Stephen McPhail. And we're off.
lads, i have no problem slating a player IF he performs badly. my issue is that you're picking on breen because of his club form this season NOT his performance in a green shirt. if any of you care to check, football365.com awarded richard dunne the single worst performance of the season for being at fault for ALL the goals in the hammering arsenal gave man city but nobody seems to be mentioning him. breen had an absolute howler against united but glenn roeder never gave him the chance to redeem himself. as for kilbane, i think he played pretty well this season and his performances have certainly improved. i'm a regular lurker on the rivals site and the sunderland fans have taken him back into the fold again. sure, he's a limited player but his work rate and commitment to the irish shirt is beyond question. personally, i rate him above holland and kinsella. harte? yeah, he's rubbish! holland? not the midfield leader we need so badly
Ok - perhaps "lay off him" was a bit strong - it is a discussion group after all. I just disagree with this continual sniping at him. He has very rarely let Ireland down and oozed class during the WC (I'm not joking!!) As for O'Shea at centre back, he played most of his games for united at full back and hasn't really proved himself at centre back just yet. His eyecatching performances for united all came at this position. I've no idea why Breen did so badly at West Ham this season -perhaps partnering the worst centre back in Premiership history (Repka) didn't help. For my money, the best irish defence would be Carr-Cunningham-Breen-O'Shea
He started off at centre half and impressed me hugely there, his attacking flair later shown after injuries forced him wide is a bonus, but he started off last season with some amazing preformances at centre half, so I would say our best defence is, from left to right... Finnan Cunningham O'Shea Carr And if either centre back was moved or injured, I'd use O'Brien ahead of Breen too.