Galaxy Fan Attacked by Chivas Fans

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  1. CyphaPSU

    CyphaPSU Member+

    Mar 16, 2003
    Not Far
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A Galaxy fan was attacked by a group of Chivas USA fans after the match outside the HDC last night. I love passion, but we really could go without this stuff here in this league.

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  2. Going Mobile

    Going Mobile Member

    Apr 15, 2004
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    post article or provide a password.
     
  3. rokstedy

    rokstedy Member+

    I love commieball
    Apr 20, 2001
    Northwest Orange County
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can't post the whole article because of copyright but you can use bugmenot.com to provide a login/password.
     
  4. BorrachoNJ

    BorrachoNJ New Member

    Apr 8, 2001
    NEW BRUNSWICK, NJ
    Associated Press basically reported that a man, who was with his wife and teenage son, was attacked by almost 50 chivas fans for wearing the galaxy shirt...

    here's a snippet:

    GM Doug Hamilton on Sunday called the confrontation an "isolated incident" and said it shouldn't be compared to fights that happen at soccer games in other parts of the world.

    "Galaxy games are family oriented," he said. "That is the reason why fans are mixed and not separated from one another. MLS is not like Europe or South America where they are actually intermixed and this type of thing happens in every game."
     
  5. CyphaPSU

    CyphaPSU Member+

    Mar 16, 2003
    Not Far
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I didn't need a password to read the story (I don't even have one).

    Try any of these hits for the article:
    Yahoo! Search Results
     
  6. Going Mobile

    Going Mobile Member

    Apr 15, 2004
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    a minor scuffle is not an attack. I posted this somewhere else BUT who really knows what was said between the two parties. I assume both are partly responsible as the Sheriffs weren't called and no one was arrested. lets not blow us up to somethings its not
     
  7. rokstedy

    rokstedy Member+

    I love commieball
    Apr 20, 2001
    Northwest Orange County
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Galaxy fan, 32-year-old Oscar Nuez, said he was leaving the stadium with wife and teenage son when he was attacked.

    "It was around 50 of them," he said. "They saw my Galaxy jersey and immediately initiated to beat me up."


    Those are his words, but you're right, who knows what was said between the parties? The article stated that CSUDH PD would be filing a report. If Mr. Nuez is telling the truth, then I interpret him saying that he got attacked which might result in an arrest or not.
     
  8. mbar

    mbar Member+

    Apr 30, 1999
    Los Angeles, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hamilton's quotes are disturbing.

    They show a man who is only interested in his bottom line and potentially not willing to face the reality that measures that are expensive may be necessary. (seperated seating, more security.)

    I sat near the legion last night and on they way out of the game they were members that clearly were interested in picking a fight in general.
     
  9. Dan Loney

    Dan Loney BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 10, 2000
    Cincilluminati
    Club:
    Los Angeles Sol
    Nat'l Team:
    Philippines
    Well, the police were there, taking a report. I don't know if anyone will be arrested, but a report was certainly filed.

    To quote Chalky on the Riot Squad board - I think this calls for immediate overreaction and wild-ass assumptions. Especially from people who didn't see the incident. Better still, from people who didn't see the game.
     
  10. wcgcapone

    wcgcapone Member

    Feb 6, 2001
    Denver, CO, USA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is going to happen anywhere they play. Here in Denver they threw bottles and cups onto the field and several scuffles broke out after the game. MLS is going to have to realize that along with the additional revenue (if any) that Chivas brings in, they also bring a fanbase that is filled with scumbags.
     
  11. SpencerNY

    SpencerNY Member+

    Dec 1, 2001
    Up in the skyway
    Wow, what a surprise, the guy who negative repped me for defending Mexicans from unwarranted racist, stereotypical remarks makes a post where he trashes an entire group of people he has never met. You appear to be the the **********ing scumbag.
     
  12. GalaxyFutbolForever

    GalaxyFutbolForever New Member

    Apr 21, 2005
    Los Angeles!
    ********ing retard. This shouldn't happen. I'm not surprised though. They were pissed because his team can't do anything on the field so they took it out on a random guy. Just sickening. Bastard.
     
  13. blech

    blech Member+

    Jun 24, 2002
    California
    this is disturbing to me (both what happened and the galaxy response). fyi, i witnessed an incident in the nw parking lot that involved security that seems different than the incident in the article. security stepped in before anything happened and ordered a large group of chivas fans to head to their cars, but i was close enough that i felt a little uneasy being there for a moment. i also saw a chivas fan toss a half full cup of coke at paulo nagamura when he was signing autographs on the east side of the field after the game. it missed him but got part of the guy who was with him. i'd like to think that one can go to a game wearing a galaxy jersey and not be concerned about one's safety.

    by the way, i also want to be clear that i again very much enjoyed being at a classico, in large part because of what the chivas fans added to the atmosphere. this isn't directed at all of them by any means. there just has to be a line drawn between cheering for your team and even booing or taunting the opposition and physical contact or intimidation of any nature.

    can't we all just get along?
     
  14. 562nation

    562nation Member

    May 10, 2004
    (562)areacode LA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This the way typicall mexican fans act when they lose, I've seen it may times, They just dont know how to react to losing. But unfortunatley were going to see this more and more as the years go bye trust me. Its sad but true
     
  15. Eskandarian11

    Eskandarian11 New Member

    Jan 11, 2005
    Glendale, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    Armenia
    do the Chivas even have 50 fans these days ?? ;)
     
  16. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    You're going to get flamed to hell by the liberals on this board for racism.
     
  17. gswitatrophy

    gswitatrophy Member

    Jan 16, 2003
    Tillamook, Oregon
    hey im liberal as hell and i agree. mexican fans cannot handle a loss especially to a bunch of "gueros". try talking the typical american smack to a mexican fan that involves them losing and they will try and start a fight. i had an incident in hs with a guy on my soccer team who got all bent out of shape and brought over another player and i quote him as saying "you mess with one bean you mess with the whole pot" my only reaction to that was "am i the tortilla??". the only thing i can tell mls is that they better watch closely as to what goes on when chivas is in town because a lot of people are not willing to deal with those chivas fans who are drunken scum and want to pick fights and ultimately it would end up hurting attendance in the long run.
     
  18. fdp

    fdp Red Card

    Oct 24, 2001
    I was having such a great time at the match even given the scoreline; that is until I too witnessed things being thrown at a Galaxy player immediately after the game. I think the very player you mention in your post.

    "Things" such as the Galaxy giveaway wastebaskets which could inflict bodily harm if hit in the head or eye with a sharp edge of the crushed wastebasket. I also saw a bag of candy being thrown at the player. The security escort caught the bag, which appeared to be M&M's, gestured a thank you to the fool who threw them and began to eat them.

    All in all I was and still am very disturbed that this has taken place.

    Thought isolated incidents, HDC security needs to take this very seriously before someone gets hurt. There needs to be a zero tolerance policy in place.

    Personally, I am going to somehow start my own crusade to get the word out amongst CDCU fans that a few bad apples are giving us decent fans a bad name. I want to see the good fans put pressure on these few bad apples to the extent of pointing them out to the authorities if need be for the greater good and future of the game, club, and league, in Los Angeles and the United States.
     
  19. beltwayrob

    beltwayrob New Member

    Jun 15, 2004
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't understand how people didn't see this coming. Sorry but LA just can't handle their in-town/cross-town rivalries. Especially when you have the element of race/national orgin involved it gets even worse. We'll be seeing a lot more of this around the league in the coming years folks. This is just a sign of things to come.

    On that note, sorry to hear about this incident, nobody just have to deal with that kind of BS and I'm not talking BigSoccer!
     
  20. Autogolazo

    Autogolazo BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 19, 2000
    Bombay Beach, CA
    1. Nobody knows the exact details of this incident. If 50 people attacked the guy, he wouldn't have just a bloody nose and a fat lip.

    2. I would bet that Oscar Nuez (which means "nut" in Spanish) just may be of Hispanic origin. So where's the racial angle if he's beaten up by Chivas fans? Not there. It's about the jersey.

    3. Far worse incidents have occurred in the RFK parking lot (documented on these boards), and I personally saw two guys punch each other bloody INSIDE the Cotton Bowl right in front of me at a Burn game a few years back.

    4. This is all being magnified by the rivalry.

    5. Nevertheless, this does not make Doug Hamilton's statement any less ludicrous, given the situation.
     
  21. fdp

    fdp Red Card

    Oct 24, 2001
    Possibly El Salvadoran... yet that is a whole other issue.
     
  22. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    I agree with this. MLS knew this would happen. I'm not going to comment on this specific incident because I have no idea what happened. Overall, the Mexican fans behave at games like they're accustomed to in Mexico. That's simple. We have different unwritten rules of etiquette. As Doug Hamilton states, our sporting events aim to be family friendly. Doug needs to wake up, however. I have no idea what precautions are being taken to ensure the safety of the fans in and around the stadium. But clearly, if you write this off as an isolated incident then you're not taking it as seriously as you should. Both Chivas and Galaxy fans must feel safe going to the stadium.

    By the way, I was at the US-Jamaica game on Saturday. A few rows in front of me was a whole section of Mexican fans. They had flags, Mexico jerseys, etc. I guess they bought the tickets just in case Mexico was playing there. Either that or they just wanted to be obnoxious a-holes. They were absolutely piss drunk screaming obscenities at the players. The Honduras fans near me weren't going to take it. I really thought we'd have a riot on our hands. I guess they thought they could scream anything they wanted to in Spanish and nobody would understand it. Guess again. They were kindly escorted out of the stadium.
     
  23. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Here's a question that I'm completely ignorant of. What's the relationship between Mexican fans and fans from Central American countries. I remember the Mexico game IN Costa Rica was a near riot situation. It was clear from my experience this weekend that there was no love lost between the Mexican and Honduran fans.
     
  24. riverplate

    riverplate Member+

    Jan 1, 2003
    Corona, Queens
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Exactly. The minute I read this guy had time to head count up to fifty I became leary.
     
  25. Scoschee

    Scoschee New Member

    Sep 16, 2002
    SoCal
    It sucks that a few do spoil the bunch. It really has been a good rivalry so far and everyone I have crossed paths with has had a smile on their face saying we will get you next time. It should stay that way.
     

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