Galarcep: European clubs undervalue MLS

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by dark knight, Jun 23, 2004.

  1. christopher d

    christopher d New Member

    Jun 11, 2002
    Weehawken, NJ
    Fine article and great perspective on the Euro-transfer issue. DMB will get his -- maybe he'll get to Spain instead as a result of MLS blowing off Southhampton. The thing is, MLS should be able to get theirs, too.

    And $1.37M was a silly offer. But, at least the Euro clubs are knocking. SA/Mexican clubs are missing the boat completely
     
  2. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    what's the login there?
     
  3. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    I, too, had log-in issues.
     
  4. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Register with a fake email and you get temporary access.
     
  5. rebel77fl

    rebel77fl Member

    Dec 19, 2003
    try bugmenot.com it will give you passwords for many sites like this. Seems like this one caught on to the bigsoccer id.
     
  6. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    mls is acting in a reasonable way. They want a good price for their biggest stars.What killed me was the Soton chairman said that he thought Beaz would be a BIG star in England... but offered money that would be apporpriate for a duffer. Save the rhetoric, and show MLS the money.
     
  7. Rommul

    Rommul Member

    Aug 26, 2003
    NYC
    "What does Beasley expect MLS to do? A league with only a handful of valuable and sought after commodities isn't about to give one up for the sake of appeasing a player who voluntarily signed a four year contract, which amounted to a two-year extension, in 2002. Beasley should direct his anger at the agent who convinced him that signing a new four-year deal with MLS in 2002, at the age of 20, was worth it."

    Why doesn't he get criticised for saying the same things I say?

    Oh wait he has credibility.

    Nevermind.
     
  8. panicfc

    panicfc Member+

    Dec 22, 2000
    In my chair, typing
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've said this before, if you want to get to Europe - hire a European agent.
     
  9. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    If and when MLS starts selling outfield players to Europe for a lot more money, MLS will have a point. Until then, the jury's out on whether MLS is pricing its players too high or European teams are lowballing.
     
  10. Rommul

    Rommul Member

    Aug 26, 2003
    NYC
    And they won't be able to do that until they start asking for more right?
     
  11. mschofield

    mschofield Member+

    May 16, 2000
    Berlin
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Value is based entirely on demand. MLS might not want to sell Beasely for $1.3, but until they get a higher offer, that IS his market value.
     
  12. MLSNHTOWN

    MLSNHTOWN Member+

    Oct 27, 1999
    Houston, TX
    Unless Beasley is more valuable to MLS to ride out the remainder of his contract and then let him go on a free. Or maybe wait one of the two years remaining and sell him for that price. There are lots of factos which determine his market value.

    Regarding MLS valuing their players, looking at the MLS exports, I can't seem to believe they are overvaluing them (especially coming off of this past season).

    MLS Export History -
    1. McBride - He has been very solid at Fulham, probably undervalued when sold.
    2. Mathis - Very good for Hannover, obviously his value is dependent on how motivated he is. But I would say he was worth more than several teams were ponying up for him that MLS declined. Obviously MLS lost out because he left on a free.
    3. Howard - He has been way better than most everyone expected.
    4. Stern John - Has been a more than adequate epl/1st division player.
    5. Joe Max - Eh, probably not the best export
    6. Lewis - Been a solid 1st division player, never given shot at EPL
    7. Bocanegra - I think teams should have considered giving Boca a decent substantial offer, he has been very solid at Fulham.
     
  13. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    "Market value" implies a market, i.e. a buyer and a seller. Beasley may be more valuable to MLS if they keep him, but that in no way affects what his market value is. As has been said, his market value is really determined by what a willing buyer would pay for him.

    Aside from Howard, it's really difficult to look at any of these exports and say 'wow'. Mathis, for example, looked great for a few games and then declined. Who knows how he'll perform over the long run. And the only ones who've been there a while are Stern John (who I just don't think quite cuts it as a Premiership player), JMM (who was great for a while then did nothing), and Lewis (who looks a very good 1st Division player).
     
  14. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
    Sort of, but not really. There has to be seller to have a market. For instance, I'm not looking to sell my house. If you call me and bid me $50K, and that's the only bid I have, that's not the market value; that's what one guy tried to pay me to buy it from me on the cheap.
     
  15. Rommul

    Rommul Member

    Aug 26, 2003
    NYC
    Thank you.

    Its amazing how many people think its a good idea for MLS to take whatever is offered and are trying to find circuitous ways to justify it.
     
  16. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    True enough.

    But it's also true that you would only really compare Howard and Bocanegra as MLSers. Mathis at his best was better than DeMarcus, but he was well past his best when he went to Hannover.

    Oh, and Stern John was a real force, but I think most MLS fans would say the league has improved so much since then that comparisons are hard to make.

    I'm assuming that the reason you're not giving Bocanegra any props is that he's only done it for half a season. I don't think you're being unfair, but if he's still a fixture in the Fulham lineup in December, ESPECIALLY if he's still playing out of position, that gives you an idea of DMB's value. The difference in current value last season between those two was small. And DMB has youth on his side, in comparison.

    $1.3M is a joke of an offer. $2M is IMO inadequate. If someone wants him, with a year and a half to go on his contract, the offer has to be near $3M. Remember, in MLS, the main thing is winning MLS Cup. So from the Fire perspective, if DMB is sold now, they're losing *2* postseasons of DMB. His "value" to the league drops in half at the winter transfer window. I expect him to be sold then. S'hampton's bid would, IMO, be very close to fair at that point.
     
  17. McGinty

    McGinty Member

    SKC/STL
    Aug 29, 2001
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
  18. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    the chairman of Soton was effusive in praise of beaz, and said he would be a big star in EPL- then offered chump change for him. As Ali G said "aint that a little hypocriticalist?"
     
  19. wjarrettc

    wjarrettc Member
    Staff Member

    Oct 1, 2002
    Cliffs of Insanity
    Club:
    Carolina Railhawks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If I were MLS and playing this game, I'd bet that Beasley will shine for his country during WC qualifying this summer and fall driving his market value up and I would cash in big on a transfer to a team desperate for reinforcements at the winter transfer window.
     
  20. Rommul

    Rommul Member

    Aug 26, 2003
    NYC
    Thats they way football works.

    At least you understand.

    Its a shame that someone has to make an offer for him to make him start playing well.
     

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