PBP: Fullback

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by Marko72, Oct 2, 2013.

  1. soccerusa517

    soccerusa517 Member+

    Jun 23, 2009
    Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This so much. He needs a winter loan, Shea too.
     
  2. cpwilson80

    cpwilson80 Member+

    Mar 20, 2001
    Boston
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. TheyCallMeBruce

    TheyCallMeBruce Member+

    Jul 22, 2013
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    God, that's frustrating.
     
  4. soccerusa517

    soccerusa517 Member+

    Jun 23, 2009
    Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We're in trouble next summer. Klinsmann sticking with his guys.
     
  5. TheyCallMeBruce

    TheyCallMeBruce Member+

    Jul 22, 2013
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    He's a fool. I'm no longer expecting us to get out of group.
     
  6. ckl26

    ckl26 Member+

    Jul 21, 2012
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    If he's actually sticking with Beas and Evans we're screwed
     
  7. Mario Balotelli

    Mario Balotelli Member+

    United States
    Feb 28, 2012
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Let me preface this by saying that I'm not the biggest fan of Evans at right back but let's chronologically look at his starts there in the past year for the NT:
    • 4-3 win vs. Germany - He shackled Andres Schurrle and had an excellent performance all around.
    • 2-1 win vs. Jamaica - He struggled against the Jamaican's pace and looked shaky defensively but he scored the game winning goal in stoppage time
    • 2-0 win vs. Panama - Had a poor game and really got caught out defensively against the speedy Panama attack
    • 1-0 win vs. Honduras - Rock solid defensively and tidy in possession
    • 4-3 win vs. Bosnia - He was one our better players in the first half and did an outstanding job cutting off crosses and containing the right side of the field
    For all the crap he gets, we don't lose when he starts at RB and he hasn't made any catastrophic errors that a lot of fans almost seem to be hoping for.

    Look at who's played RB in our losses:
    • Timmy Chandler - got abused by Carlo Costly; quite possibly one of the ugliest performances I've seen in that position for the NT. Since then he's struggled to stay healthy, suffered a loss of form, and now he's back in the lineup but Nuremberg is close to the bottom of the BL table.
    • Geoff Cameron - thoroughly outplayed by Kevin Miralles and Belgium sent a lot of their attacks down his side
    • Michael Orozco - looked horrendous and left us exposed multiple times against Costa Rica
     
  8. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    #83 ussoccer97531, Oct 10, 2013
    Last edited: Oct 10, 2013
    Its ridiculous that Brad Evans doesn't even start at RB for his club team yet he is the undisputed starter at RB and the guy that starts at RB for Seattle isn't even on the radar.
     
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  9. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Germany's players were playing at 50%. Frankly, I can't take much from that game. Nice performance, but he was playing as hard as he could, while the German players treated the game as a scrimmage.

    He was badly exposed by Jamaica and Panama, two teams that most likely won't be playing at the World Cup. These were two bad performances in two important WCQ's.

    I wouldn't say that he was rock solid against Honduras. He only made one notable error where he gave the ball away right in front of goal, but was luckily bailed out. Otherwise, he didn't have much to do because Honduras parked the bus and didn't attack at all.

    The Bosnia game is similar to the Germany game in my mind. Most of the European based players were just starting their club seasons, and weren't too excited about a midweek friendly and then a game for their club on the weekend. Most of the players treated the game as a scrimmage. You could see this by the way that many players avoided tackles and challenges.
     
  10. Goldtone

    Goldtone Member+

    Aug 8, 2013
    California
    Club:
    Udinese Calcio
    He did mention Dolo has resumed training. I don't think he would mention him if he had already counted him out.
     
  11. ckl26

    ckl26 Member+

    Jul 21, 2012
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Geoff Cameron is an entirely different fullback this year then from even the Belgium match and last year at Stoke...he's much much improved.

    Also how about noting Chandler's positives. The guy is in the freakin Bundesliga and has been playing extremely well the past 4 weeks especially vs. Dortmund...he can't do everything for the entire team. It's good that his manager was sacked a few days ago. Also how about bringing to light Chandler's performance vs. Valencia? I take that Honduras match with a grain of salt because our entire backline looked awful that day - Omar, Fabian and Cameron...all them looked awful. Hell even Bradley didn't look good and was gassed by the 35th min. Going from freezing cold March in Germany to furnace 100 degrees Honduras is insanely hard and even many of the best players in the world would struggle as well.
     
  12. USvsIRELAND

    USvsIRELAND Member+

    Jul 19, 2004
    ATL
    The two games where we actually played someone we gave up 3 goals each game.

    Our defense is a problem, a huge problem.
     
  13. USvsIRELAND

    USvsIRELAND Member+

    Jul 19, 2004
    ATL
    Dude is about to be 35 and has yet to make an appearance this season. He's quality, but I'm a bit worried.
     
  14. USvsIRELAND

    USvsIRELAND Member+

    Jul 19, 2004
    ATL
    The defense will be the undoing of this team in Brazil.

    We have a world class midfield (IMO), very good options up top, but our defense is questionable at best in the center and just flat out bad when it comes to our outside backs.

    We're going to have a really tough time back there.
     
  15. ckl26

    ckl26 Member+

    Jul 21, 2012
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    The thing is, is we have players doing it at very high levels abroad (at least I think) at RB but JK seems to think otherwise about them. I do like the fact that he mentioned Chandler yesterday in his interview with Wahl.
     
  16. ebado

    ebado Member

    May 2, 2008
    This is why I think it's appropriate to consider Lichaj a dark horse to make the WC squad.
     
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  17. Mario Balotelli

    Mario Balotelli Member+

    United States
    Feb 28, 2012
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've seen all those matches and he definitely hasn't played extremely well through that stretch. He played well versus Dortmund and last place Braunschweig. He was mediocre against Bremen and not very good against Hamburg. Yes, he wasn't directly culpable on the goals but his positioning was suspect several times throughout the game and he doesn't always make great decisions with the ball.

    I want him to succeed but it's hard to continue to include him in our plans when he hasn't been called in since the first camp of the year for various reasons.
     
  18. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    Indeed that's just what he said, and it's just what he's been doing. If I'm our WC opponents, I'm licking my chops at that.

    We've done well this year, but... this just doesn't seem comforting at all.
     
  19. Bob Morocco

    Bob Morocco Member+

    Aug 11, 2003
    Billings, MT
    Ball watched and gave Draxler a free run on his goal.
     
  20. swedust

    swedust Member+

    Aug 30, 2004
    From the outset, JK's inclusions (and therefor formation, and therefor tactics) have not seemed to me to be in alignment with the squad's areas of need. They remain so.

    "We try to build the competition that is there...."

    Where exactly is "there", Juergen?
     

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