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Discussion in 'Mexico National Team' started by Zacarías, Jun 7, 2021.

  1. Mr Pancho

    Mr Pancho El Mero Mero

    Chivas de Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Apr 24, 2011
    Seattle, WA
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I could less about the Olympics. We all know no sends their absolute best for that. There's only 3 competitions that matter for Mexico imo. The World Cup, Confederations Cup and the Copa America (when we get invited).
     
  2. la fresa

    la fresa Member+

    Oct 31, 2005
    texas
    Club:
    Serbian White Eagles
    Irrelevant if you care or not really. You seem to discredit Lozano for coaching kids as though it were easy when someone like lavolpe and Hugo both failed miserably doing so
     
  3. Mr Pancho

    Mr Pancho El Mero Mero

    Chivas de Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Apr 24, 2011
    Seattle, WA
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    #153 Mr Pancho, Nov 26, 2021
    Last edited: Nov 26, 2021
    I suppose you're right, I did discredit him. The Olympics is a molero tournament as far as I'm concerned. The fact that Lavolpe and Hugo failed doesn't mean much.
     
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  4. LGRod

    LGRod Member+

    Mexico
    Aug 14, 2010
    Listenin to Los Bookies
    Club:
    Club Tijuana
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Bump
     
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  5. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    Breathe lads breathe.

    I noticed the latest WCQ squad released and that though the MF and some FWDs were in foreign leagues not the Goalies and Defenders. My french friend would say, it's not the players fault the soup is so good at home. they don't need to leave. I think exporting more talent to would help develop the program. The world has changed and lack of internationals in the backline and in goal is a sign of lack of quality. The Yanks are shipping their young up and comers with some first choice. They have some domestics but is a small number of their squad now.
     
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  6. markd132

    markd132 Member

    Tigres
    Mexico
    Jan 11, 2022
    Im not that worried that players dont want to leave mexico i mean brazil and argentina won their first world cups with home league players
     
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  7. Saldgotti1991

    Saldgotti1991 Member+

    Jun 7, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Lol dumb comment. Easily the best football was being played in those countries at the time. The Mexican league is far behind in terms of athleticism and fitness, that’s why we can’t leave our players in Liga MX.
     
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  8. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    I agree with Sal, that was a different era. World was bigger, per-Bosman. Let's not talk about winning a WC let's see mexico make and Win a QF.
     
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  9. Alopez

    Alopez Member

    Sep 11, 2008
    Birmingham
    Y'all hear the rumour that Tata asked the team if he should step down after the Canada game? Apparently the team rallied around him and said he should continue. Not sure what to make of that.
     
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  10. Athazagoraphobia

    Jul 28, 2012
    Vancouver
    Club:
    CF Atlas Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Of course the team will rally around him with all the vets that are being assured spots on the NT.
     
  11. Mr Pancho

    Mr Pancho El Mero Mero

    Chivas de Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Apr 24, 2011
    Seattle, WA
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    The fact that they rallied around him means very little. Every time a coach is in trouble the players go on social media and the news and say they support the coach.
    What's interesting is the rumor that HE went to the team and ASKED of he should step down. Makes you wonder if there's noise amongst the players and he hears it. I would probably guess the young guys complaining but stayed quiet when he asked, and instead let the vets speak up saying they supported him.
     
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  12. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
    Staff Member

    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Do you think this influenced some of his call ups of dudes he had in the doghouse? how long until he calls up someone like cheech?
     
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  13. Alopez

    Alopez Member

    Sep 11, 2008
    Birmingham
    This is a really good take and hadn't considered the overall idea that you wouldn't want to rock the boat if you're not one of the "core" members or leaders in the team.
     
  14. NCCFBALL

    NCCFBALL Member+

    Apr 19, 2007
    ITALY
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I don't agree with this idea. I agree that players in media and public will more likely protect coach, but if this truly happened behind closed doors and they still supported him, then I think it has value.
     
  15. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
    Staff Member

    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    if the team is truly rallying with TATA then it will reflect on the field in this window of qualifier games
     
  16. Mr Pancho

    Mr Pancho El Mero Mero

    Chivas de Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Apr 24, 2011
    Seattle, WA
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    lol this idea I disagree with. Rallying behind your coach wins you 1, maybe 2 games before the emotion wares off and your back to where you were before. He needs to call up the right players and implement the right game plan.
     
  17. Athazagoraphobia

    Jul 28, 2012
    Vancouver
    Club:
    CF Atlas Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Idk… we’re close to the WC and I’m sure many of these guys were thinking of not losing they’re spots.
     
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  18. Colima24

    Colima24 Member+

    Jul 28, 2005
    Villa de Alvarez
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Gives us Piojo or give us death.
     
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  19. josescorp

    josescorp Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    Houston
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Mexico will win tonight and end up qualifying as they should, and this fraud is going to stay until the WC. We all know how this will end.
     
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  20. markd132

    markd132 Member

    Tigres
    Mexico
    Jan 11, 2022
    I think tata tried to return to the nt based in one club like we were doing in the past but he choose a very conflictive team like rayados , the infamous "jugamos cuando queremos" as an example
    But he will die instead of change the players that arent working
     
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  21. Kaney

    Kaney Sleeping Dragon
    Staff Member

    Dec 12, 2005
    Lake County, IL AKA Southern Wisconsin
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Same thing, breh.
     
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  22. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
    Staff Member

    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    If he doesn't get a win, RIP. Team is looking lifeless even against non concacaf competition.
     
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  23. Colima24

    Colima24 Member+

    Jul 28, 2005
    Villa de Alvarez
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Piojo needs to come in with a much needed fresh approach and stop calling up dead weight. One of the problems is players that don't have it anymore are unwilling to show shame and retire from the NT because they want to hang on for one more WC even if it's to the detriment of the team and Martino fails to see that and continues to rely on these foos.

     
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  24. LAFEFUT

    LAFEFUT Member+

    Mexico
    Mar 13, 2018
    Especially in the last decade
     
  25. Plutarco Elias Calles

    Atletico San Pancho
    Mexico
    Sep 4, 2021
    The most uninspiring Mexico team ever. Wouldn't even mind missing the WC at this point
     
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