FUERA TATA

Discussion in 'Mexico National Team' started by Zacarías, Jun 7, 2021.

  1. nopalnation

    nopalnation Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    San Diego CA
    Club:
    CA Monarcas Morelia
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    i Find it funny that we all the massive shit problems mexican fut has, we seem to always blame the coaches..
     
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  2. LAFEFUT

    LAFEFUT Member

    Mexico
    Mar 13, 2018
    There are enough numbers and stats to conclude that this is Javier Hernandez career in a nutshell. It can be extended to the MEXTOURs in the USA which is where a significant number of Javier’s goals come from. Javier is a decent player in his own way but the issue is not Javier, it’s the role his image plays in Mexican football.
     
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  3. El Chanclas

    El Chanclas Member+

    Nov 21, 2008
    The root of the problem no doubt is the structure itself, and the coach only plays with what he has, but Tata has done himself no favors recently.

    -lost 3 straight games to the biggest rival in the region in progressively worse fashion
    -failed to win a regional tournament where his biggest competitor sent a B squad
    -tactical stubbornness and what appears to be waning adjustment/decision-making acumen with respect to subs
    -blacklisting of players in positions where current starters are failing to deliver or creating errors and getting beat tactically and physically.

    I’m sure there are other factors at play here we can’t possibly know about, and I’ll admit qualifying, for now, is still on pace. Does it appear though that he’s getting the best out of the player pool at his disposal? I don’t think so. I think he’s on the downward slope of the curve of his tenure and even if he qualifies it will be the same story. Of course, another coach may get the same or worse results…
     
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  4. Colima24

    Colima24 Member+

    Jul 28, 2005
    Villa de Alvarez
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    A.L.V! con este güey.



    Venga, Piojo, a rescatar a Mexico otra vez.
     
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  5. TGO

    TGO Member+

    Jul 4, 2011
    I wouldn’t shed a tear if Tata gets sacked. The question is, who replaced Tata?

    Who is available right now?
     
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  6. metalmaster

    metalmaster Member+

    Jul 7, 2004
    In the wrong hood
    Club:
    Hakoah Maccabi Ramat Gan
    Yeah, Almeida.
     
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  7. Colima24

    Colima24 Member+

    Jul 28, 2005
    Villa de Alvarez
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    No caiga en esa trampa, Tio.
     
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  8. Philip J. Fry

    Philip J. Fry Member+

    Mexico
    Jun 12, 2013
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Tampoco en la de Piojo.
     
  9. LAFEFUT

    LAFEFUT Member

    Mexico
    Mar 13, 2018
    #109 LAFEFUT, Nov 14, 2021
    Last edited: Nov 14, 2021
    Not asking for Tata’s resignation nor ruling it out but such contrast in their tone/words.



    Siempre siempre le voy a desear lo mejor a Mexico y al fútbol de Mexico. Pero, así como les deseo que les vaya bien a ellos espero que les vaya mejor a Guatemala”

    - DT interino de la selección de Guatemala : el señor Mexicano Rafael Loredo



    “Ya aclaré que esto no es un enfrentamiento personal. No es que Estados Unidos me ha vencido a mí. Entiendo la importancia que tiene tener tres derrotas ante un rival, al que los mexicanos siempre quieren ganarle, pero lo más importante es recuperar el paso en la eliminatoria”

    DT de la selección mexicana: Gerardo “el Tata” Martíno

    W-T-F?
     
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  10. LAFEFUT

    LAFEFUT Member

    Mexico
    Mar 13, 2018
    #110 LAFEFUT, Nov 14, 2021
    Last edited: Nov 14, 2021
    I agree with this but el Tata can only work with what he has. Right for example right winger. Orbelin is an improvised RW and after him, who else does Mexico have that starts on ANY team in the world? Briseño, Huerta, Aquino, Elias Hernández? We have Lainez and he can maybe offer something but he does not have 5 full matches played in the last 3 years. Lainez has 10 times more photos uploaded to social media with his dog than he does matches played. On the left, after Chucky, who? Who do we have IN THE WORLD, that can offer something remotely close to Chucky? We all know the drama with a 9. Whether or not people like Javier Hernandez his playing style in the league he is in, is Mexico’s hope reliant on one player who is rolling on 35? Tata can only work with what he has. Mexico has gone through 20 DT since 1990: more than Germany, Uruguay, Italy, Brazil etc. Even the US and Canada has had less coaches. The latter both changed the structure. Mexico also needs to. This recent USA/Mexico was not a case like the others donde USA le ganó a Mexico de pansazo, le ganó bien. I have even started with the influence Mexican TV and/or sports media has on Mexican fútbol.

    He did take too long to make changes if he was able to see. There are enough matches to gather data and conclude that his tactical decisions are more reactionary rather than being assertive. I have previously mentioned this but “running” is not a bad thing. Mexico has struggled with players that run and move for 90 minutes. That is where modern football is this day in age.

    There isn’t one Mexican player that will change the panorama for Mexico. Not Lainez, not Arteaga and not Javier Hernandez. All decent players in their own way.

    On a completely but relevant side note, that channel TU-Dene is an up most sh1tbag of a channel. Fooking escoria.
     
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  11. chiva_guero

    chiva_guero BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 4, 2007
    Mexico NSR
    I’m surprised people don’t realize you’re talking about none other than player-DT Cuauhtemoc Blanco

    This would be a totally different discussion :cautious::coffee::ROFLMAO:
     
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  12. metalmaster

    metalmaster Member+

    Jul 7, 2004
    In the wrong hood
    Club:
    Hakoah Maccabi Ramat Gan
    No mames guero.
     
  13. chiva_guero

    chiva_guero BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 4, 2007
    Mexico NSR
    our guy @Colima24 is so often misunderstood

    i'm here, though

    lol
     
  14. blue4211

    blue4211 Member

    Jul 22, 2012
    Club:
    CDSC Cruz Azul
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    If they don't get points from Canada the signal will go out to Monterey! El Vasco Aguirre will take over!
     
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  15. nopalnation

    nopalnation Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    San Diego CA
    Club:
    CA Monarcas Morelia
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    and the first thing he will do is call “el conejo” to be our goalie :cautious:
     
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  16. Mr Pancho

    Mr Pancho El Mero Mero

    Chivas de Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Apr 24, 2011
    Seattle, WA
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Take that back :eek:
     
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  17. El Chanclas

    El Chanclas Member+

    Nov 21, 2008
    Funniest thing I’ve read on here in a long time!
     
  18. LGRod

    LGRod Member+

    Mexico
    Aug 14, 2010
    Listenin to Los Bookies
    Club:
    Club Tijuana
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Its time...
     
  19. josescorp

    josescorp Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    Houston
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Tata needs to stay in Canada and coach the Whitecaps or whatever. That's his level. Bum ass coach
     
  20. Colima24

    Colima24 Member+

    Jul 28, 2005
    Villa de Alvarez
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    It was time 5 games ago.
     
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  21. SkiptoMyLou

    SkiptoMyLou Member+

    Mar 20, 2011
    I approve.




    For the lulz


    Let's not kid ourselves, Mexico isn't winning shit. Might as well make it a spectacular failure.
     
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  22. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
    Staff Member

    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    No more MLS coaches.
     
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  23. nicamex1935

    nicamex1935 Member+

    Jul 10, 2007
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    If you’re gonna sack him it’s best to do it now with the long gap in between the next matches.

    But they won’t.

    Direct qualification is officially in jeopardy.
     
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  24. LGRod

    LGRod Member+

    Mexico
    Aug 14, 2010
    Listenin to Los Bookies
    Club:
    Club Tijuana
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
  25. Hecho en Chivas

    Hecho en Chivas Member+

    Apr 22, 2004
    Chulajuana
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    So, no Almeyda? :D

    Realistically, I think Turco Mohammed or Jimmy Lozano are the likely replacements
     
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