FSU Players Abroad [R]

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  1. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
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    FC Metalist Kharkiv
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    United States
    #51 Real Corona, Aug 27, 2008
    Re: Pavluchenko @ Spurs thread


    He mistranslated English girls into English centerbacks. Common mistake.
     
  2. yasik19

    yasik19 Moderator
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    Chelsea
    Ukraine
    Oct 21, 2004
    Daly City
    #52 yasik19, Aug 27, 2008
    Re: Pavluchenko @ Spurs thread

    well, maybe Torres (one guy) is not the brightest or maybe he's just a really good forward, but to say EPL defenders are not bright is silly. We'll see what Pavluchenko can do.
     
  3. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    #53 nicephoras, Aug 27, 2008
    Re: Pavluchenko @ Spurs thread

    In which case you'd think that a) Spanish sides would beat English sides in European competition all the time, that b) Spain would have less goals scored per game and that (c) all Spanish players moving to England would do well.

    None of those things are at all true, so I'll have to pass on Torres's anecdotal wisdom.
     
  4. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    #54 nicephoras, Aug 27, 2008
    Re: Pavluchenko @ Spurs tread

    Diouf is actually a very intelligent player. He's just not as good as his Japorea performance indicated. Baros is also not a bad player, but again, not as good as he is for the Czechs.
     
  5. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    #55 nicephoras, Aug 27, 2008
    Re: Pavluchenko @ Spurs tread

    Villareal is now the definition of top flight competition? Um.......OK? Are there 5 #10s better? Sure - but what do we really call #10s? For instance, Robinho is likely to come over as a #10 for Chelsea, do you consider him one? Is he better than players like Kaka, Messi, etc? No, he's not. And why don't we ask the Spain supporters how great he is?
    He's a good player, but he hasn't shown it in a top league. Perhaps he'll come to the EPL or La Liga and be the second coming of Zidane. Or perhaps he'll be the next Veron. I'm also not sure I see him as a pure #10, but we'll see.
     
  6. FootyFan365

    FootyFan365 Member

    Jun 23, 2008
    Indy
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    FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    #56 FootyFan365, Aug 27, 2008
    Re: Pavluchenko @ Spurs tread

    I wouldn't consider Robinho a #10
     
  7. Dimuha

    Dimuha Member

    Oct 18, 2007
    northpole Chicago
    Club:
    CSKA Moskva
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    #57 Dimuha, Aug 27, 2008
    Re: Pavluchenko @ Spurs tread

    Messi is not a #10, though with his ridiculous talent he can play pretty much anywhere apart from the central midfield. Robinho as versatile as he is offensively, is the most overrated player in the world and nowhere near world class imho.

    Kaka and Totti are the premier #10's in the world.
     
  8. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    #58 nicephoras, Aug 27, 2008
    Re: Pavluchenko @ Spurs tread

    Kaka's not a classical #10 either though. Who is anymore? And as far your concern about Robinho - I suppose we'll see, won't we? I tend to think of players good enough to start for Brazil for several years (not named Roque Jr.) as world class, but I can see how you'd be upset Chelsea pursued him and not Arshavin.
     
  9. Dimuha

    Dimuha Member

    Oct 18, 2007
    northpole Chicago
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    CSKA Moskva
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    Russia
    #59 Dimuha, Aug 27, 2008
    Re: Pavluchenko @ Spurs tread

    Guess what? The Brazilian media also pressured Dunga to call Ronaldinho for the Olympics and he stunk the place up. You think I'm bitter that Chelsea persued Robinho? First of all that was the LAST club I wanted Andrei to go to. Secondly, Robinho is linked with Chelsea because of Scolari and only Scolari. He's going to flop in England. He hasn't set the world alight in La Liga and he'll have a much harder time in England considering the vast differences in the way football is played there. Most overrated player in the world.
     
  10. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    #60 nicephoras, Aug 27, 2008
    Re: Pavluchenko @ Spurs tread

    And the Brazilian media have had what to do with two Brazil managers, Schuster (who has been a huge Robinho supporter), Mijatovic and Felipao believing Robinho is a good player? :confused: How are those situations even remotely comparable? Has Robinho been seen 20 pounds overweight while being booed by home fans recently? I didn't think so.
    He has actually played very well in Spain (was excellent last season). Nor are the differences in football between the two places all that vast. Besides, if Robinho could score all those goals against Spanish defenders, doesn't your silly Torres logic imply he's going to score twice that many in England? :rolleyes:

    There's a reason why Arshavin's likely on his way to Spurs and Robinho to Chelsea. (And yes, its largely because of Felipao. Now, I wonder why Felipao, a manager who makes decisions the press doesn't like (Romario) is in position to coach Chelsea? Brazilian talent. Hmmmm...........)
     
  11. FootyFan365

    FootyFan365 Member

    Jun 23, 2008
    Indy
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    FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk
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    #61 FootyFan365, Aug 27, 2008
    Re: Pavluchenko @ Spurs thread

    Messi is a #10 because he understands the game on a whole other level. He knows when to pass, how to create with the ball and then pass/take it himself/and move without the ball to create goals.

    Robinho is one of the most exciting players right now, he's absolutely magical with the ball. But he goofs around too much and doesn't know how to be ruthless at all times, he plays for the fans. But for someone like me, who has seen him play live in person twice, he'd be the best player to watch play, Robinho, Christina, and Messi.
     
  12. Dimuha

    Dimuha Member

    Oct 18, 2007
    northpole Chicago
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    CSKA Moskva
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    Russia
    #62 Dimuha, Aug 27, 2008
    Re: Pavluchenko @ Spurs thread

    Believe me , imo Messi is the best player in the world when healthy. But he usually plays to wide to call him a #10. I'll take your word for it that Robinho is exciting live, but he's nowhere near Messi's or Ronaldo's class.
     
  13. Slitty

    Slitty Member

    Apr 17, 2005
    Russia
    #63 Slitty, Aug 28, 2008
    Re: Pavluchenko @ Spurs tread

    I had no idea the lumber market was so overinflated! :D
     
  14. Zenit

    Zenit Moderator
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    Jun 3, 2000
    Above the Tear Line
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    Zenit St Petersburg
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    #64 Zenit, Aug 28, 2008
    Re: Pavluchenko @ Spurs thread

    Sky Sports reporting this morning the fee was 12 million pounds.
     
  15. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
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    FC Metalist Kharkiv
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    United States
    #65 Real Corona, Aug 28, 2008
    Re: Pavluchenko @ Spurs thread


    That's an average fee for a striker in England's inflated market.
     
  16. Dimuha

    Dimuha Member

    Oct 18, 2007
    northpole Chicago
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    CSKA Moskva
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    #66 Dimuha, Aug 28, 2008
    Re: Pavluchenko @ Spurs thread

    I assure that if he was neglish his price tage woul be 5-10 million Euros higher.
     
  17. Sheva7

    Sheva7 New Member

    Jun 22, 2006
    USA
    Club:
    FC Dynamo Kyiv
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    #67 Sheva7, Aug 28, 2008
    Re: Pavluchenko @ Spurs thread

    Will he play against Chelsea this weekend?
     
  18. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

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    Colorado
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    FC Metalist Kharkiv
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    #68 Real Corona, Aug 28, 2008
    Re: Pavluchenko @ Spurs thread

    Probably to most English fans, Pavlyuchenko is just another no name guy from eastern europe.
     
  19. Slitty

    Slitty Member

    Apr 17, 2005
    Russia
    #69 Slitty, Aug 28, 2008
    Re: Pavluchenko @ Spurs thread

    More likely the guy who scored two goals against their national team.
     
  20. Sheva7

    Sheva7 New Member

    Jun 22, 2006
    USA
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    FC Dynamo Kyiv
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    Ukraine
    #70 Sheva7, Aug 29, 2008
  21. yasik19

    yasik19 Moderator
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    Chelsea
    Ukraine
    Oct 21, 2004
    Daly City
    #71 yasik19, Aug 29, 2008
    Re: The Return: Sheva at AC Milan Part II Thread [R]

    come on Sheva.
     
  22. loden

    loden Member

    Jan 2, 2005
    Forest Hills, NY
    Club:
    FC Dynamo Kyiv
    #72 loden, Aug 29, 2008
    Re: The Return: Sheva at AC Milan Part II Thread [R]

    How many Ballon d'Or winners do Milan currently have on their roster?

    Hm let me count

    1. Ronaldo
    2. Ronaldinho
    3. Kaka
    4. Sheva

    Isn't that a little excessive?
     
  23. Petro

    Petro New Member

    Nov 17, 2007
    #73 Petro, Aug 30, 2008
    Re: The Return: Sheva at AC Milan Part II Thread [R]

    Ronaldo's been relased
     
  24. Ukrainesheva

    Ukrainesheva New Member

    Dec 31, 2007
    NJ
    Club:
    FC Dynamo Kyiv
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    #74 Ukrainesheva, Aug 30, 2008
    Re: The Return: Sheva at AC Milan Part II Thread [R]

    I hope Pato will give #7 to Sheva cause he does have history with that number at the club
     
  25. FootyFan365

    FootyFan365 Member

    Jun 23, 2008
    Indy
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    FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    #75 FootyFan365, Aug 30, 2008
    Re: The Return: Sheva at AC Milan Part II Thread [R]

    At the least wear 77 instead of 76. His 2nd coming so 77 would be kind of cool, not the year you were born :rolleyes:
     
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