FSU Players Abroad [R]

Discussion in 'Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, & the former Soviet Repu' started by Dimuha, Aug 26, 2008.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Dimuha

    Dimuha Member

    Oct 18, 2007
    northpole Chicago
    Club:
    CSKA Moskva
    Nat'l Team:
    Russia
    Well, I'll just come out and say it. Spartak just sold their club symbol, Zenit are still refusing to sell Arshavin. Hmm... Never though I'd say this...but Spartak is the good guy in this.
     
  2. Zenit

    Zenit Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 3, 2000
    Above the Tear Line
    Club:
    Zenit St Petersburg
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Pavluchenko @ Spurs tread

    If I am Spartak management, I'm laughing all the way to the bank on this one. Spurs fans ought to enjoy his 20% strike rate :D

    Spartak had absolutely zero objection to selling Pavluchenko, and made no bones about it. I think that says a lot about what Spartak really thought about Pavluchenko as a player and whether or not he could elevate their game.
     
  3. FootyFan365

    FootyFan365 Member

    Jun 23, 2008
    Indy
    Club:
    FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    Re: Pavluchenko @ Spurs tread

    Pogrebnyak will never see another league other than Russia.

    Athleticism...
     
  4. FootyFan365

    FootyFan365 Member

    Jun 23, 2008
    Indy
    Club:
    FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    Re: Pavluchenko @ Spurs tread

    Congrats to Pavlyuchenko, he's got to be ecstatic. How much was the transfer fee
     
  5. FootyFan365

    FootyFan365 Member

    Jun 23, 2008
    Indy
    Club:
    FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    Re: Pavluchenko @ Spurs tread

    Congrats to Pavlyuchenko, he's got to be ecstatic. How much was the transfer fee?
     
  6. yasik19

    yasik19 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Chelsea
    Ukraine
    Oct 21, 2004
    Daly City
    Re: Pavluchenko @ Spurs tread

    I guess Berbatov is going to MANU then.
     
  7. Dimuha

    Dimuha Member

    Oct 18, 2007
    northpole Chicago
    Club:
    CSKA Moskva
    Nat'l Team:
    Russia
    Re: Pavluchenko @ Spurs tread

    Hopefully AA goes to Spurs as well, Mosto-Karpin #2 maybe.
     
  8. Zenit

    Zenit Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 3, 2000
    Above the Tear Line
    Club:
    Zenit St Petersburg
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Pavluchenko @ Spurs tread

    I heard J16M
     
  9. Dimuha

    Dimuha Member

    Oct 18, 2007
    northpole Chicago
    Club:
    CSKA Moskva
    Nat'l Team:
    Russia
    Re: Pavluchenko @ Spurs tread

    Euro or American?
     
  10. Dimuha

    Dimuha Member

    Oct 18, 2007
    northpole Chicago
    Club:
    CSKA Moskva
    Nat'l Team:
    Russia
    Re: Pavluchenko @ Spurs tread

    Ha, not even bro. He doesn't even want to go to Spurs. Imagine how Shava feels about all of this.
     
  11. Zenit

    Zenit Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 3, 2000
    Above the Tear Line
    Club:
    Zenit St Petersburg
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Pavluchenko @ Spurs tread

    Fine by me. I, and no sensible fan, would ever trade Pogrebnyak for Pavluchenko. If such a fictional trade would have ever been proposed by Spartak management to Zenit, they would have been laughed out of the building.

    Spurs needed a true striker a hell of a lot more than they needed a 'tweener like Arshavin. I'm not a fan of Pavluchenko in the least, but he's big, has a decent work rate and has a knack for being in the right place at the right time, good field sense. (Now, what he does with the ball at his feet is another story IMHO, but let's not go there right now.)
     
  12. Zenit

    Zenit Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 3, 2000
    Above the Tear Line
    Club:
    Zenit St Petersburg
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Pavluchenko @ Spurs tread

    Euros.
     
  13. Dimuha

    Dimuha Member

    Oct 18, 2007
    northpole Chicago
    Club:
    CSKA Moskva
    Nat'l Team:
    Russia
    Re: Pavluchenko @ Spurs tread

    Pavlyuchenko has a very soft touch though, for a CF his ball control is very good, he's just selfish and the thing is his strike rate is still abysmal.
     
  14. Real Corona

    Real Corona Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Pavluchenko @ Spurs tread


    I still refuse to believe that Tottenham would actually force him to sit in the reserves.
     
  15. Ivan_Palach1

    Ivan_Palach1 New Member

    Aug 26, 2008
    Re: Pavluchenko @ Spurs tread

    not sure what you trying to say. Physically Pogrebnyak much stronger and he can like Kyut run for any ball all day long. Both not very fast players. The only thing Pavluchenko has on Pogrebnyak he more selfish player. After 7 years in Spartak he learned how to take crappy shots from 25 meters, i can give you that.
     
  16. Dimuha

    Dimuha Member

    Oct 18, 2007
    northpole Chicago
    Club:
    CSKA Moskva
    Nat'l Team:
    Russia
    Re: Pavluchenko @ Spurs tread

    Pavlyuchenko's touch is better.
     
  17. Begemot

    Begemot New Member

    Oct 20, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Re: Pavluchenko @ Spurs tread

    He's much like Berbatov in that way; exceptional (not as good as Berbatov, but still high quality) touch in non-key situations, but a lack of composure in the box leading to clown college finishing and a low strike rate. Berbatov has improved slightly at Spurs, but at Leverkusen he could miss sitters with the best of them. Pogrebnyak has more strength and composure - and thus better finishing ability, but less capacity to do something spectacular. I know which attributes I would choose.
     
  18. Ivan_Palach1

    Ivan_Palach1 New Member

    Aug 26, 2008
    Re: Pavluchenko @ Spurs tread

    to Dimuha and Dnipro Im not just stupid hater i want explain why i hate every centimeter of Pavlyuchenko face every letter of his name. Please watch two games CSKA-Spartak and Lokomotiv-Spartak to understand why i hate bastard Pavlyuchenko. --------------------------- Spartak has interesting corner scheme where bunch of tall players including Kovac and Stranzl stand on the one side of penalty box anticipating and trying to win cross and Pavlyuchenko close to post on other side. So in game against CSKA Kovac won cross and was able to trow the ball on Pavlyuchenko. Pavlyuchenko missed badly from 1 yard. ---------------------------- Lokomotiv-Spartak game. Corner shot again and now Stranzl won the ball in amazing and dangerous jump. Goalie and defenders was absolute lost, out of play. 10 meters of clean net, super sitter and Pavlyuchenko scored. My point: this is team goal, 100% team created goal. CF must ********ing work his ass off to deserve that kind of goal. ---------------------------- Pogrebnyak scored his share of this kind of goals in the past but he fair with his teammates, he fights for every ball, for every air battle, for every inaccurate pass. Pavlyuchenko? No this ********ing bastard not even said thanks to Stranzl. He scores this kind of goals all his career but unless there is Hiddik on tribune you can forget about fair play.
     
  19. Zenit

    Zenit Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 3, 2000
    Above the Tear Line
    Club:
    Zenit St Petersburg
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Pavluchenko @ Spurs tread

    This is exactly the point that I made to FF365 on the "other" forum - to wit, he's the only person I know of here or on that forum that ever questioned Pasha's work ethic and his athleticism. In fact, he sometimes works too hard, case in point was the very questionable challenge that led to the yellow vs. Bayern Munich that kept him out of the UEFA Cup Final; game was well in hand, needless challenge. It is not easy for a big guy like PP to run around the full 90, contest every 50/50 ball, etc. And he's developed into a pretty decent FK specialist from distance, too. Pavluchenko is tall and somewhat lanky; PP is built like a brick sh#thouse. It will be interesting to see how Pavuchenko takes to those notoriously huge EPL centerbacks.

    For his sake, Pavluchenko had better improve his strike rate or the gang at White Hart Lane are gonna eat him for lunch, if the EPL CBs don't batter him into submission first. It can be done; it wasn't so long ago that Pogrebnyak himself had a tough time settling in with his new team, and had his own bad stretch of unlucky or less than skillful finishes. To his credit, he worked on it and became Captain Automatic in the UEFA Cup.

    BTW, welcome aboard Ivan_Palych1!
     
  20. Zenit

    Zenit Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 3, 2000
    Above the Tear Line
    Club:
    Zenit St Petersburg
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Pavluchenko @ Spurs tread

    I'll second that thought. And so would any GM/sporting director or coach in the RPL.
     
  21. Dimuha

    Dimuha Member

    Oct 18, 2007
    northpole Chicago
    Club:
    CSKA Moskva
    Nat'l Team:
    Russia
    Re: Pavluchenko @ Spurs tread

    Well, if Arshavin comes to London Pavlyuchenko will have no excuses. Modric and Arshavin will provide him with some of the best service in the world.
     
  22. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    Re: Pavluchenko @ Spurs tread

    Have you watched Spurs? Modric and Arshavin won't provide him with service that's that good, especially as all 3 adjust to the EPL. This has Rebrov Mark II all over it.
     
  23. Dimuha

    Dimuha Member

    Oct 18, 2007
    northpole Chicago
    Club:
    CSKA Moskva
    Nat'l Team:
    Russia
    Re: Pavluchenko @ Spurs tread

    Well, I'm sure you're not biased at all. Arshavin is one of the best playmakers in the world and Modric is a very intelligent player. Rebrov's Rebrov, Shava's Shava, and Modric is Modric.
     
  24. Zenit

    Zenit Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 3, 2000
    Above the Tear Line
    Club:
    Zenit St Petersburg
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Pavluchenko @ Spurs tread

    FSC recently had the Sunderland replay on, and seeing that there was nothing else on, I watched it. That team did not look good, at all. Two weeks ago, I was actually in favor of AA going there, even though Arsenal and Everton have long been my first choices as far as teams that might be a good fit for Shava. After watching that game, there is no way in hell I want AA going to Spurs, that team is a bloody mess, both off and on the pitch. The Spurs board is notorious for quick hooks after a bad start (see: Martin Jol, who I thought did a more than credible job, especially since he had virtually zero to work with at the start of his term,) and they're looking at going oh for three at Stamford Bridge this weekend - I wonder if Ramos will last the weekend.

    Interesting how Shava had mentioned that he and Ramos had numerous discussions prior to the transfer talks heating up, and Pavluchenko said that he hadn't yet spoken to the coach - not once - but "I'm sure he'll call soon." WTF?! I sure as hell hope so :eek: This move smacks of desperation by Spurs to me - they've filled a glaring need, they had to get SOMEONE to play with Bent, but it seems like Pavluchenko was about #8 on their list and they felt that any move would be a decent move, leading into the critical weekend.
     
  25. FootyFan365

    FootyFan365 Member

    Jun 23, 2008
    Indy
    Club:
    FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    Re: Pavluchenko @ Spurs tread

    Pavlyuchenko is faster, better agility, and has way more spring in his jump than Pogrebnyak. I'd go as far as to say the chips might not have fell Russia's way had Pogrebnyak played instead.

    Zenit, I love Pogrebnyak too, I was upset to see his bad fortunes in late May. I just think Pavlyuchenko is a little bit better. All my non Russian friends were nuts about him too.
     

Share This Page