FSU 2023

Discussion in 'Women's College' started by Tom81, Dec 15, 2022.

  1. sweepsit

    sweepsit Member

    Oct 25, 2016
    SF, California
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nobody is bothered about a coach complimenting his own players. I think the frustration people are expressing is when others then translate that coach speak into external rankings, awards, recognition, etc.
     
  2. Bosco

    Bosco Member

    Feb 19, 2010
    Agree that women’s soccer suffers particularly from rankings, awards, etc., being based on reputation, what someone else says, rather than actual knowledge. Worst offenders are the player ranking services that try to profit off their ignorance.
     
  3. Number007

    Number007 Member+

    Santos FC
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2018
    What constitutes "actual knowledge"? It's all based on reputation. People make a choice on who they think is credible. Coaches, ranking services, awards and even posters on Big Soccer are all in the same boat. For me, there are no "worst offenders", just people trying to use their influence for different purposes.
     
  4. Tom81

    Tom81 Member+

    Jan 25, 2008
    A coach hyping or even over hyping their own players does not move the needle of offense for me.
    UNC always has some studs (a lot of them actually).
    I don't watch UNC very often, unless FSU is playing them or a brief highlight video from a good game. I suspect different players look good in each game.
    In the recent FSU/UNC game, Sentnor and Dahlien stood out. That said, I don't particularly watch for UNC players standing out, so they have to jump off at me.
    Next game it may be Patterson and Meza!
     
  5. babranski

    babranski Member+

    Dec 15, 2012
    Raleigh, NC
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's kind of how it has been with this roster so far this year. I think only Avery Patterson has had multiple "stand out" games. Sentnor you could probably say is on her second in a row with an even better showing vs UVA in the previous game. This is Dahlien's first big performance of the season.

    That can be good from the perspective we don't really have a true stand out attacking player. Lots of players *almost* there, but nothing like what I'm seeing from Dudley from game to game. I feel like Olivia Thomas could have potentially grown into that role when things clicked for her, but she got hurt in that SEC gauntlet.
     
  6. Tom81

    Tom81 Member+

    Jan 25, 2008
    IMO, Dudley is just beginning to show her potential.
    The next question she'll have to answer is, will she do it consistently.
    Now the answer to that question will not always be goals, but how much attention does she draw away from other offensive threats like Olsson, Echegini, Brown and Huff.
     
  7. Tom81

    Tom81 Member+

    Jan 25, 2008
    Early in the season, I compared the young Jordynn Dudley to a young pre-injury Rebecca Jarrett.
    No disrespect to Jarrett, but JD is much better. She has the speed of Jarrett, but much better touch on the ball. She can dribble nearly full speed and keep the ball within 2 yards.
    Her shots are with pace and precision. She passes so well for one so young and she has short area quickness to go with the long speed.
    If she is not a future USWNTer, then I don't know what I'm looking at!

    To join the fan club, just email ......... JK ;)
     
  8. sweepsit

    sweepsit Member

    Oct 25, 2016
    SF, California
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That first goal… pulling the ball down, surging with intention, gliding forward, and gaining a few yards of separation from the defender on her shoulder… love to see it!
     
  9. Tom81

    Tom81 Member+

    Jan 25, 2008
    For one so tall she gets around the corner in the box extremely well. To me, to find long speed and quickness in one so tall is rare! IMO
     
  10. Tom81

    Tom81 Member+

    Jan 25, 2008
    BTW last week Jordynn was the player of the week for TDS nationally, but certainly was not good enough to be the same for the ACC.;):(
     
  11. Tom81

    Tom81 Member+

    Jan 25, 2008
    We held Miami to "0" shots on goal.
    Jordynn Dudley scored 2 more goals.
    Dare we hope for 1 POTW?
     
  12. Bosco

    Bosco Member

    Feb 19, 2010
    I checked with UNC Central Control Office and they said Florida State already had gotten its allotment for this season.
     
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  13. Carolina92

    Carolina92 Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    Wake Forest did the same thing (no opponent SOG) except it was against VA Tech.

    And the Notre Dame player also scored two goals BUT added an assist as well.
     
  14. Tom81

    Tom81 Member+

    Jan 25, 2008
    Now that is funny my friend. I suspect you and I would get along famously in person. I love a dry sense of humor!
     
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  15. Tom81

    Tom81 Member+

    Jan 25, 2008
    Just for clarification, I'm not incensed by any of this. I'm slightly amused and bewildered by the lopsided #s, but it is afterall, insignificant in grand scheme of things.
    ND and WF girls won offensive and defensive POTW. That is the first such award for both schools.
    Kudos to the "UNC Central Control Office" for their selections;)
     
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  16. Tom81

    Tom81 Member+

    Jan 25, 2008
    Just for clarification, the shots taken by VT vs Miami were not the same. VT had 3 shots, none on goal apparently. UM had 0 shots period!
     
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  17. babranski

    babranski Member+

    Dec 15, 2012
    Raleigh, NC
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was surprised to see the selections and now I'm curious as to how they're made. No disrespect to the ND gal but Dudley's two goals were sensationally taken regardless of opponent. A PK take, a tap in on a rebound, and a token lay off assist shouldn't have supplanted that.

    I have a question about the FSU UNC game that maybe I'm just missing in the recaps. I was wondering if anybody found out about what happened to Roque right before FSU scored their first goal? Was that an equipment malfunction like the sock bunching up underneath the sole, or ... ?
     
  18. Tom81

    Tom81 Member+

    Jan 25, 2008
    Don't know!
     
  19. Carolina92

    Carolina92 Member

    Sep 26, 2008
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    Well after a 3-3 tie I’m not sure anyone on FSU or UNC was going to win the defensive award. And despite what some may think there are several high quality players elsewhere in the league!
     
  20. Carolina92

    Carolina92 Member

    Sep 26, 2008

    Well after a 3-3 tie I’m not sure anyone on FSU or UNC was going to win the defensive award. And despite what some may think there are several high quality players elsewhere in the league![/QUOTE]
    Lol oops. Wrong week. Time is going by too fast. Still thinking about the UNC/fsu game.
     
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  21. Tom81

    Tom81 Member+

    Jan 25, 2008
    That was just a woodshed whuppin' that BC took.
    Several of the goals were high level. Some excellent assists and balls played into the box!
    BP is still experimenting with player positioning. Had Dudley playing the 9 today instead of Olsson who played 7 or 11. She was on the right.
    Jody Brown still doesn't look 100%. I haven't seen her full speed yet. Hope she gets 100% healthy.
     
  22. BG78

    BG78 New Member

    FSU
    United States
    Nov 9, 2022
    Peyton Nourse's 2 goals today, and basically all of this freshman class, demonstrate that BP knows who/how to sign and strongly suggests that there will be no decline in talent going forward.
     
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  23. Tom81

    Tom81 Member+

    Jan 25, 2008
    The only thing I know is that UNC had a tie with Duke. That should solidify their hold on the #1 ranking.;)
     
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  24. Tom81

    Tom81 Member+

    Jan 25, 2008
    I would like to hope so, but we won't know that for a couple more years.
    15 of our players were recruited by Mark K.
    In 2 more years, most of those will be gone.
    He will need to hit the transfer portal hard. The upcoming 24 recruiting class is good, but not top 10 good IMO. (1 top 25 player, 2 others in the lower top 50)
    The 25 class ( 3 top 25 types, 1 top 50)
     
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  25. sweepsit

    sweepsit Member

    Oct 25, 2016
    SF, California
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They’ve won almost 2/3 of their matches. Why wouldn’t they be?
     

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