FSC coverage of U-20s

Discussion in 'TV, Satellite & Radio' started by Lloyd Heilbrunn, Jun 18, 2005.

  1. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Feb 11, 2002
    Jupiter, Fl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Letter to ESPN

    Talk about bad coverage, anyone see US-Eygpt on FSC today? What's with not updating the other result?? I spent the whole game wondering why Sigi seemed to be ignoring goal difference and possible second round matchups.The commentator never even discussed the 2nd round matchup possibilties, or winning the group, only "The US will advance with a tie""
     
  2. TarheelJTK

    TarheelJTK Member

    Dec 14, 2004
    Jersey City
    Re: ESPN - Good or Bad for Soccer

    I watched the US match on FSC. He did discuss the group standings a little bit early on in the broadcast and mentioned that the score of the Argentina - Germany match would be given when they found out the score. I was disappointed by the lack of discussion of the matchups for the next round but it may have been too complicated for the match broadcaster to deal with due to the possibility of teams finishing in 3rd and advancing as well as the other results that would still affect the US.
     
  3. geordienation

    geordienation Moderator

    Apr 21, 2001
    Chicago
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Split into its own thread away from the ESPN thread.
     
  4. stevewhit0

    stevewhit0 New Member

    Jun 26, 2001
    Champaign, IL
    It’s not FSC fault, I missed this game so i'm assuming that it was not FSC announcers but a FIFA guy. Thread title should be FIFA's coverage
     
  5. apl13

    apl13 New Member

    Feb 25, 2005
    Chicago
    They showed the Germany/Argentina game right after the US/Egypt game. About a month ago on the last day of the EPL season, someone started a thread about how pissed they were at FSC because during the game they showed (Fulham/Norwich?) the announcer gave away the results of the other relegation games. So I guess they'll never be able to please 100% of their viewers.
     
  6. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Feb 11, 2002
    Jupiter, Fl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Did the result of the other games impact Fulham/Norwich?? Because Ger-Arg sure impacted the US and as a US fan I wanted to know what was going on,and if the US would win the group,and who they might they play.See WC 2002 and US-Pol & SK- Port, if ESPN had not updated us on the other game during US- Pol., it would have been pretty bad, would it not???
     
  7. TarheelJTK

    TarheelJTK Member

    Dec 14, 2004
    Jersey City
    When did they show the Germany/Argentina match? The match they aired after the USA/Egypt match was Brazil/S. Korea.
     
  8. OldFanatic

    OldFanatic Member

    Jan 12, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't believe they showed Germany - Argentina on Fox Soccer Channel.

    apl13: What are you talking about? :confused: I do know they showed it LIVE on Galavision, but not sure about FSC.

    Also, another bizzare thing about Brasil - South Korea match is that they started the coverage with players/flags of Nigeria and Switzerland coming out. They even showed national anthems of both nations. Then they went to a commercial and strangely started with the Brasil - South Korea kickoff after coming back from the commercial. What was that all about?

    Another thing I didn't like about this coverage was, they only had raw video feeds from FIFA, and did'nt bother showing a running clock and score. The match on Galavision had these basic widgets as you would expect them. I would think by now, the running clock and score must be a basic widget which could be programmed by something as simple as a macro. Is FSC being so cheap that they're cutting costs for a simple match-clock?
     
  9. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, I don't get that at all either. I've watched a few of the U-20 matches, and the only time they show the clock/score is every 10 minutes on that white bar on the bottom of the screen.

    Other channels around the world put their own graphics up, and FSC has their own score/time graphic for MLS and other leagues, so why aren't they doing it for U-20?
     
  10. OldFanatic

    OldFanatic Member

    Jan 12, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's coming from the raw FIFA feed.

    Maybe they laid off the guy in charge of this graphics to cut costs? ;)
     
  11. TarheelJTK

    TarheelJTK Member

    Dec 14, 2004
    Jersey City
    I don't know if any of you saw the Brazil-Mexico match from the Confed cup today but it was the same type of raw feed but FSC put in their own scoreboard and clock as they do for MLS and other matches. It seems that they just didn't devote the resources to do it for the u-20's which is unfortunate because I hate sitting there with the US up by 1 and just dying to know when the match will end.
     
  12. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, I know. They have the same white bar for Champions League, and I remember seeing it on "in house" feeds of the Women's World Cup.
     
  13. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Exactly. How hard would it be?
     
  14. SeattleFan

    SeattleFan New Member

    Mar 4, 2000
    Redmond, WA USA
    I didn't have any problem with the lack of the score/time graphic. It's nice to be able to see what's going on in the upper left part of the screen.
     
  15. Lithium858

    Lithium858 Member

    Aug 11, 2002
    Baton Rouge
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It seemed like they had the crowd noise on mute. Bseisdes the commentary, I only heard the whistle, The picture was really nice though. That's the price you pay for being low budget I guess lol =(
     
  16. Cannon

    Cannon Member

    Arsenal
    United States
    Sep 2, 2001
    Washington, DC metro
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed. I'd love it if FSC went to that format for all their games and also removed useless graphics like the logos that remind me I'm watching a league highlight show (duh).

    Nothing like an almost full (damn that channel logo) screen of football. Instead we often have a screen with football competing for space with channel logos (somtimes 2 or 3 on ESPN2 which can have the ESPN logo in the upper right from the int'l feed, the ESPN2 logo on the ticker, and the ESPN logo in the scoreboard), "live" or date for delayed broadcast, the overly large scoreboard with extra graphics that just waste space, and of course sponsors ads. Then you add a ticker, animated ads that cover the bottom of the scree, info on future broadcasts for that channel to that. Ugly.
     
  17. GutBomb

    GutBomb Red Card

    Aug 28, 2003
    Outside Boston
    there weren't big crowds at all in games not involving the germans or the dutch. that could contribute to why you didn't hear much.
     
  18. GutBomb

    GutBomb Red Card

    Aug 28, 2003
    Outside Boston
    while i agree with you that screen real estate is important i would love to see FSC integrate their upper right corner logo with a scoreboard/timer. it would look MUCH better than their amateurish white block. I will make up some mock ups this evening. and post 'em somewhere in this forum.
     
  19. Lithium858

    Lithium858 Member

    Aug 11, 2002
    Baton Rouge
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Haha, okay I'm just picky then.
     
  20. GutBomb

    GutBomb Red Card

    Aug 28, 2003
    Outside Boston
    i made the mockups: https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=215319
     
  21. bigtoga

    bigtoga Member

    Sep 16, 2000
    Dallas, Texas
    Which is what? What goes on "up there"? Every league in the world uses that space for time/scores - and every cameraman knows not to let the ball go into that area. Besides, if well done, the graphics are small enough not to interfere.
     

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