MLS Confidential breaks news on Burn stadium Today's MLS Confidential included a brief tidbit on the Burn's proposed stadium: "Commissioner Don Garber says plans for a stadium in suburban Frisco, Texas, are moving along" Fascinating. Although Frisco is almost as out of the way for many Metroplex folks as McKinney, they have a great tax base with Stonebriar Mall. Who knows. We might actually get a stadium built this time!
Frisco? GD it. I mean yay Burn stadium, I guess thats a little selfish of me to complain about it's location to, haha, better in Frisco then no where at all eh?
Garber mentioning Frisco by name would seem to indicate that they've made decent progress on the stadium proposal and have lined up the real estate portion of the deal. With any luck, maybe they'll work up to public hearings on the stadium by year's end.
Well, it has to start with something somewhere. From the FW Star Telegram: http://www.dfw.com/mld/startelegram/sports/4348360.htm Frisco city manager George Purefoy said Frisco would be interested in building a stadium for the Burn....Lamar Hunt's Hunt Sports Group has been negotiating on behalf of Major League Soccer. At this time no formal agreements have been signed between Frisco and HSG. Lots of land up there, owned by the same guy who owned the proposed land in McKinney.
Well the one good thing if the Burn do move to Frisco is they will be able to attract more fans, the Tollway is starting to be built into Frisco(at least the land is set aside for it), and it is a fairly nice area. The questionsthat need to be asked are, which side of Preston Road(289) and Hwy 121 will the stadium be built on if Frisco does in fact Frisco has grown leaps and bounds. I remember moving to prosper(just north) back in 93 and they were just building their first real grocery store, Brookshires. Now look at the place. I might have to call some of my friends up there and see if they can find out the scoop.
My best guess for the location of this stadium is that they would try to build it in the midst of that urban/retail complex that they are developing off of main street and the Dallas Parkway(Tollway). Upscale apartments and condo's with shops and restaurants would get a big boost on game days if there was a stadium within walking distance. This is a couple of miles north of the intersection of 121 and the Tollway which is where the new minor league stadium and Dallas Stars training center is being built.
If this gets done, what can we name after this guy? Maybe a section of bleachers or something? alansl
It is not a nice area. It rivals Arlington for great destinations. I am not saying its horrible compared to other areas. But for cryin' out loud, lets call this what it is -- Dallas inability to get anything done. It's the friggin' Dallas Burn. Screw Frisco. Anyway, that was my rant on McKinney as well. Now let's get the damn thing built.
Where is new Spain anyhow? Frisco is flat and has lots of open land. It is tough to find open land inside the LBJ loop. Beggars cannot be choosers. That part of TX is growing like a weed with some high dollar homes and kids : That is prime MLS country. 30 years ago Texas Stadium was in the middle of nowheresville. Now it looks like the center of town. If this stadium gets built there, I will leave my heart in Frisco.
New Spain: Mexico I agree, beggars can't be chosers, but we can still complain and analyze. Texas Stadium is not in the middle of nowhere. It is in the center of one of the most aesthetically unpleasant parts of a geographically bad area. It is a terrible stadium -- the way it feels, the turf, the seating, the location, the parking, the complete non access to foot traffic. It is the worst football venue I have ever been to, and that includes Wildcat Ram Stadium and Hondo High's Football Stadium. Look at the the Ballpark in Arlington. I am not a baseball fan. I went to one game this year. If the stadium were downtown, with a view of the lights of the skyscrapers downtown, I would not only go to more games, it would be a much better, more beautiful experience. I have a right to complain because when I go to a game, I don't just go to see a game. i go for the experience of being there, and of drinking at a nice place before hand, and maybe after. A stadium and its architecture and its location should create a unique and aesthetically pleasing whole. My bias is obviously that I want it to be part of an urban, Dallas, experience. On the flip side, I am completely ready to let the suburbs take the name of the team. If this is going to be a suburban team, let's name it that, let's let that be its identity, and let's make Dallas decide, down the line, perhaps way down the line, that they want a club. To be positive, I could get into hating those bastards from Frisco in 15 years...
The only city in the metroplex that has figured out how to create an "urban" experience that is worthwhile is Ft. Worth. A Burn stadium within walking distance of Sundance Square would be the envy of all MLS venues. La locura rojinegra
Okay. I am an idiot. It WAS in the middle of nowhere when it was first built. The stadium may be crap and everything around it may be crap and the team may be crap and the owner may be crap, but it has good access. My point was and is, Frisco is growing and there will soon be plenty of people and stuff built up around any potential stadium site. If we could, we would all want to tear down Reunion Arena and build the Burn Stadium right there. But that's not going to happen. But maybe cool stuff will happen after a place is built. Don't give them any ideas.
My guess is that the Burn's new stadium will be built in a relatively open, remote area where the land's fairly inexpensive. While it's nice to dream of an SSS within walking distance of some urban center like Sundance Square, I just can't see it happening. The land would be too expensive for one thing, and how many folks would want a stadium next door? 98% of the time it would be vacant and add nothing to the "urban" feel, while the other 2% of the time the area would be crowded with an inflow of fans who'd make parking a headache for everyone else.
Tearing down Reunion and building a stadium there kind of below ground level would be awesome. Of course in my pipe dreams I'm also a Romanesque emperor ruling the world
YES OMAN! My thoughts exactly, I hated the fact we were getting a stadium in McKinney, sure it was a stadium for the Burn and it was great, but it didn't feel "dallas"ish, you know? I live near Texas Stadium and I think it has more of a dallas feel to it than Frisco (as most would agree) and then the other day I realized I have been to Frisco recently and folks it's in the middle of no where, not a building in site (unless theres more of a city feel I'm missing). Building the stadium where Reunion is would be ideal, it's location, the land everything. I think people would take us more seriously when we can say "hey, we are a good enough team to get our own stadium downtown". The good thing about downtown is that everthing surrounds it, so it's more convienient for everyone, IMO. But then again, Northside was right, beggers aren't choosers unfortunetly, so I guess I shouldn't be arguing this until they are serious about breaking ground...
Present plans are for Reunion Arena to become part of the Dallas Convention Center. While plans like this often end up as all talk and no action, this one seems to have more to it than most, and I'd be surprised if Reunion doesn't end up incoporated into the Convention Center.