Today on the national broadcast of the inagural match at the HDC, Ty, Rob, or Waldo, don't remember which, said that part of the reason the HDC has a roof is Klinsmann. At halftime they showed a picture of what the Frisco stadium would look like and I don't think there was a roof, if there was, it was only on one side. I think that the roof is so so important for stadiums, but I also think that all of these stadiums, because they are being built at relatively low capacity, should have a plan for future expansion. How do you guys think that both could be achieved? I think its absolutely necassary, and I'm hoping they do this in Dallas. Side note: I missed the first ever match at Crew stadium. Was there anywhere near this much excitement?
i was at the hdc today and the roof helps a lot to hear the fans. the loudest thing in the stadium was that upper deck because it has a metal bottom when the fans stomp their feet the stadium erupts. if ccs had a roof it would be unbearably loud for the mexis during the hexagonal if everyone started stomping their feet and chanting because even the small metal floored upper deck at the hdc had the place rocking. i think stadiums need roofs gives character.
One way to do this, which seems to show up in a lot of drawings for proposed MLS stadia, is keeping one end open for future expansion. That way you can go ahead and put a roof up to begin with, and still have room to add 4-7,000 more seats later. If you look at the Dallas drawings, one end is open. HDC was originally open on one side, but they decided to fill some of that side in.
What's so hard about temporarily taking the roof off for expansion and then put it back on or get a new one when expansion is completed?
LA's roof cost 8 million, and it was hard to convince Phil to splurg for it. I'm sure he'll make sure it stays, instead of tearing it down and building another. You got 8 mil or more to throw around?
Re: Re: Frisco Stadium in 2005 Thread That's the same thing I was thinking. I've always thought that CCS should put roofs on the top of the two side stands, and by leaving the end stands with no roofs, the future expansion can be on the ends. When CCS was being built, I remember reading that it had a future expansion plan up to like 35,000 or something like that. That design would probably be better than the HDC. Although it looks like L.A. could move the Jumbo-tron on the end of the stadium, add seats, and relocate it somewhere. I realize how expensive the roofs are, but damn do they make a difference. I'm just happy that we can have this debate.
well the roof cost an extra 8 million bucks so 8 million here and there is alot of freaking money!!! You have to be careful with palnning when you start to get ino these type of prices or any business model or plan for that matter!!
If you look at College football stadiums they expand on them a lot. As for the roof issue, the might have to eat that if they want added revenue.
Yes, there was a lot of excitement for Crew Stadium, but the difference this time around is about the difference in size between Columbus & LA.
Over on the Dallas boards, when they talk about their new stadium, there was concern by some that a roof wouldn't be good in Dallas because of the heat. Of course they have Texas Stadium there with that roof over the stands so I would guess they have some authority on that. However with the plans they have a roof wouldn't be needed to add to the sound. The plans call for a bowl with the field below ground, so to speak, and the stands level to the ground. That would kind of make it like Michigan Stadium which is exceptionally loud. The design looks solid to me. As far as CCS goes, it needs a roof over the main East and West stands. Not just because it would add to the atmosphere and asthetics of the stadium, but because the weather in central OH is so eratic in the spring and fall. I think it would help attendance during those times.
Having attended college football games in all parts of the country I find any assertion that Michigan Stadium is loud - LAUGHABLE. Not sure if that is the stadium or the fans, but the place is a morgue relative to places like Tennessee and Florida.
Hear, hear. The place is consistently the quietest 6-figure crowd on Earth. It's really nothing but 100,000+ (the capacity is whatever Tennessee is, + 1) quiche-eating poseurs pretending to be football fans. And, the layout of the stadium doesn't help, either. It's a bowl, with a fairly shallow angle, so the top rows are miles away from the field.
I hope you're not talking about the Frisco stadium and using the word bowl. The LAST thing a SSS needs is to be arranged in a bowl. And I'm pretty sure it won't be. I hope I'm just mis-reading your post.
I think what they mean by bowl is that it is dug into the ground, such as HDC, and not built up like CCS.
Have not seen a link to renderings of the stadium yet, so here it is... http://mlsnet.com/content/03/dal0402frisco.html
I've seen these renderings a few times. What I don't get is that there appears to be a roof covering one side on the first two pictures, but the roof is missing on the rest of the slides. I guess these are just renderings so nothing is set in stone.