News: Friday, Nov 20 , 2015

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by Fiosfan, Nov 20, 2015.

  1. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
    Seems like a decent chap.
     
  2. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good points in the article, and he is giving a lot of respect to the league, so props to him. This is a bit of a pet-peeve, but I hate it when they say things like "the brand." He sounds like a marketing executive. "We've got to find a real rainmaker who can find our true north star, leverage the win-win axiom, run it up the flagpole and streamline the global paradigm and transition our synergy into a killer methodology."

    Yeah, something like that...
     
  3. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
    It is a brand and a business. That is the reality.

    I especially enjoyed that Gerrard used the word "astroturf."
     
  4. Tony in Quakeland

    Jan 27, 2003
    Pleasant Hill, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If I got five bucks for every time I here "brand" in the course of a day, I would no longer have to work.
     
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  5. Tony in Quakeland

    Jan 27, 2003
    Pleasant Hill, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not a bad piece compared to most of the student written articles that pop up here. I have a couple of quibbles but he has a point and makes it well
     
  6. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  7. asoc

    asoc Member+

    Sep 28, 2007
    Tacoma
  8. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Ireland
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    I'm in the minority here but when I read articles about Gerrard, I get the impression that he was one of those people; he thought he could come over here and take it easy because he didn't expect the standard of play to be very high. It's great that he is presenting MLS as a league that has challenges footballers don't face elsewhere. Everyone likes a new challenge!
     
  9. footballfantatic

    Mar 27, 2008
    Ontario, California
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  10. terrier

    terrier Member

    May 31, 2011
    Netherlands
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
  11. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
    Roslindale, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States



    I don't want to live in a world where Tab Ramos is more expensive than Jason Kreis.
     
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  12. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    I think the problem is that Ramos is asking too much for an entry level guy.
     
  13. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
    Roslindale, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One can only hope that that is what is going on.

    I'd enjoy seeing Ramos get an MLS HC job, though. Finally, he'd be put to a real test.
     
  14. hot potato

    hot potato Member+

    Feb 21, 2014
    Club:
    Vancouver Whitecaps
    i agree totally with you- gerrard should retire and enjoy his next permanent move back to liverpool- why he needs to come to MLS for his last year, put up with all the differences in the league, be an average player at the best and then kindly give a pat on the back to the league is beyond me!!- cant be the +$6 million dollars, can it? the expensive mansion he and his family have been up in?

    anyone really expecting him to be a value to MLS is underestimating the league itself- we are a good league and we dont need so-called aged star players or other euro snobs to validate us- to me, drogba is an anomaly and we need to sign players under 30 to huge dollars, like a giovinco, in order to keep developing the quality of MLS- players like gerrard, pirlo and lampard lower the quality IMO- great players in their younger days, but now lacking the pace, committment and physicality that MLS requires of its players
     
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  15. GHjelm

    GHjelm Member+

    Apr 23, 2008
    Batavia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Wynalda's Hunch:

     
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  16. Gamecock14

    Gamecock14 Member+

    May 27, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    What has he ever done to get such a salary. Everyone thought the Fire would be priced out by Kreis or GBS because they have actually accomplished something, but Tab.
     
  17. s1xoburn

    s1xoburn Member

    Aug 25, 2014
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    As far as on the field stuff goes, this is definitely true. But I wonder if part of the reason owners bring in these guys is that the big name DPs are both marketing MLS to the fans and other players? I would guess that having Beckham, Henry, Drogba and others makes the league more well known to other foreign players who might come to the US? At the end of the day money is the biggest thing, but added publicity and seeing other players move up from the league probably also help when MLS is selling itself to young players with other options.
     
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  18. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
    Roslindale, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  19. mbar

    mbar Member+

    Apr 30, 1999
    Los Angeles, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    is he saying the numbers put out are 20-25% overstated (which I think would be to the union's benefit) or is he saying the actual amounts are 4 times more then what is reported? (I.e., MLS is spending a ton more then we realize?)
     
  20. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He also tweeted that endorsements are not part of the equation. I believe in Europe it's added to the salary and the club takes part of it.
     
  21. Fiosfan

    Fiosfan Red Card

    Mar 21, 2010
    Nevada
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #23 Fiosfan, Nov 20, 2015
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  22. SonicDeathMonkey

    Atlanta United
    Jun 24, 2008
    Conyers, Ga.
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  23. Fiosfan

    Fiosfan Red Card

    Mar 21, 2010
    Nevada
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

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