PBP: Free Jim Comey! Free Tish James!

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  1. yossarian

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    That guy definitely would have had a legitimate denial-of-his-right-to-a-speedy-trial motion. And if his attorney didn't file one, he'd have an ineffective assistance of counsel claim.
     
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  2. yossarian

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    It can---sometimes. But as I mentioned above, if a prosecutor "dropped" lesser charges, assuming said charges could be considered lesser-included offenses of the "more serious charge," the defendant could request that the trial judge still instruct the jury on those lesser charges. And if there's any evidence supporting the lesser offense, it's reversible error for the trial judge to refuse to do so.
     
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  3. Yoshou

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    Another Trumped up charge is on the way! The FBI is investigating DC Mayor Muriel E. Bowser for corruption. In 2023, Bowser and 4 staffers took a trip to Dubai for a UN conference on climate change. After initially claiming the DC Chamber of Commerce paid for the trip, it has since been revealed that the US Conference of Mayors paid for part of the trip and the Qatar government paid the remaining $61,000.

    The investigation has been delayed because the Trump administrator fired the lead investigator because he was part of the investigation into Trump's attempts to overturn the 2020 election.

    https://archive.is/h5j3H
     
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  4. JamesA

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    Hang on, wasn't she actually working with the Trump admin on their DC occupation?

    I thought Dems were mad at her for not pushing back.
     
  5. Dr. Wankler

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    Will this wind up on the getting your face eaten thread?

    Stay tuned!
     
  6. Yoshou

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    Yes, no, kinda.

    She initially came out in opposition to Trump's invasion of DC, but surrendered to the inevitable since the DC government is subservient to the Federal government and Trump's actions in DC are legal.
     
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  7. soccernutter

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    Since DC is federal, there is limited things she could do. And also because the Republicans control the DC budget, she kind of had to play nice. But where she could, she did push back.
     
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  8. Yoshou

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    Basically, further evidence as to why DC needs to be made a state and the Federal district needs to be reduced to just the area around the White House and Capitol Hill.
     
  9. ToMhIlL

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    But that would mean 2 more blue senators and 3 more blue congresspeople.... Can't have that!
     
  10. song219

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    Probably just one blue congressperson but point taken.
     
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  11. soccernutter

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    A request of Lindsey the Insurance Lawyer.

    https://annabower.substack.com/p/watchdog-group-files-bar-ethics-complaint

    A watchdog group has asked the Florida and Virginia state bars to investigate Lindsey Halligan, the interim U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia, alleging that she violated professional ethics rules while pursuing criminal cases against former FBI Director James Comey and New York Attorney General Letitia James.

    In a 17-page complaint filed on Tuesday, the non-profit Campaign for Accountability said Halligan may have committed multiple violations of legal ethics, including by pursuing cases unsupported by probable cause.
     
  12. The Jitty Slitter

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    yes. i’ve not got to the bottom of how this can have happened. Like sure there was a multi year discovery violation but how did the defence attorney not realise this and file a motion to compel?

    unless the defence strategy was to delay trial so he could stay in jail?
     
  13. Yoshou

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    Well.. My first question is "Was his defense attorney a Public Defender?" Public Defenders are generally extremely overwhelmed with clients and it is not uncommon for them to not exactly be very good (they are not paid well for a lawyer), or to try and direct their clients to agree to plea deals. If the client doesn't agree to a plea deal, their case volume can result in lengthy delays. If the client can't afford parole, that often means they can sit in jail for months to years.
     
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  14. yossarian

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    In my experience, public defenders are quite often rather good at what they do, especially those in larger metropolitan areas. It's assigned/appointed counsel (ie., not government employees but private attorneys who contract with the courts for appointments in criminal cases) who are often not exactly stellar at their job.

    Most, not all obviously, PDs are zealots, true believers. They're in that job because they want to be and devote a ton of energy to it despite being overworked and underpaid. Appointed counsel are often jacks-of-all-trades-masters-of-none, who might handle an armed robbery one week and a termination of parental rights case the next. Often they take such appointments to supplement their other work and, thus, may be just as swamped but without the criminal law expertise.
     
  15. The Jitty Slitter

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    Attorney is Rosemary Scapicchio

    She is very highly regarded in criminal defence but I suspect the dynamic is that her client is a wannabe gangland drug dealer who rubbed another dude out after previously also trying to do the same, then got caught, so in reality it was a hopeless case so he might as well sit in jail until eventually pleading out. But then when the Karen Read fiasco hit, it created opportunities to attack the DAs office, so suddenly she came to life and got her client out on bail. It is super odd to me that an obvious discovery violation could run for over 3 years without the defence attorney melting down over it. She now applied to dismiss the charges but I doubt it will be successful.

    https://www.masslive.com/news/2025/...all-evidence-be-submitted-in-murder-case.html
     
  16. Yoshou

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    You're probably right and I was just lumping in the assigned/appointed counsel into the "public defender" label.
     
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  17. The Jitty Slitter

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    Something that's fascinating is sometimes a random federal or state prosecutor or defence attorney will jump into Reddit and trash all the reddit/youtube lawyers.

    We are talking people who might have done 10-20 murder trials (most plead as you know)

    They generally point out that much of the discourse bears no resemblance to actually running a typical murder trial in Florida or Boston or wherever. People's idea of criminal justice is hugely warped by the celebrity cases, and the idea middle class white ladies with 3 or 4 lawyers on their team including Allan Jackson are victims is pretty far fetched.

    Jackson is currently repping a murder defendant in california who killed 4 girls by driving at wild speeds and yet again this nice white kid is a victim of corrupt prosecutors lol
     
  18. yossarian

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    The word "obvious" in your comment is doing the heavy lifting. It's difficult to tell from this article what was obvious and what wasn't. His counsel saying that much of this is "newly discovered" leads me to infer (perhaps incorrectly) that it might have been requested previously, but she was told by the former DA that it didn't exist or was lost or whatever.
     
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  19. Val

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    For the fifteen years he was on the bench, my father in law thought that the single best lawyer in the county was our public defender. He used to marvel at folks who spent money at our boutique law firm or tried to bring in counsel from Baltimore. "Why spend all that money when you can have Michael X for free?"
     
  20. The Jitty Slitter

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    The biggest part of the discovery violation was the search warrant affidavits that supported some of the evidence presented to the grand jury. So as the attorney had the grand jury discovery she had to have known she did not have the missing affidavits.

    The article i posted goes into a different issue mostly.

    I should have posted more background.
     
  21. rslfanboy

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    Oh. Really?

    :p
     
  22. Naughtius Maximus

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    Hang on. Are you suggesting me having watched several episodes of Suits doesn't entitle me to hold forth about legal matters? :eek:
     
  23. The Jitty Slitter

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    In my defence its pretty hard to summarise 4 years of litigation, where I only tuned in for the last month or so.

    Getting back to the point - it is strange to me that it can be 4 years later and this murder case has not gone to trial?

    That led me to speculate that the defence does not want to go to trial (preference to stay in jail pre-trial) and the Commonwealth also does not want to go to trial (overworked DA), so basically they just wait till it pleads out?

    But then an unrelated scandal opened pandoras box for the defence
     
  24. rslfanboy

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    I was making a silly dig at you in general, in collegial jest.

    I do appreciate the legal insight and peak into lawtube netherworld.
     
  25. soccernutter

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