When it's all over, how willing could the new regime be to do business with a country that never supported its liberation? Or will the French have a new story cooked up by then?
Re: Re: France and 'New Iraq' Coked up? That's not France, that would be Dubya. Oh, wait a sec, I just reread what you wrote. Nevermind.
They've got to be kidding. They're fvcked and they know it. Of course, we're a hell of a lot more fvcked when the war bill comes due. When people are asked if they support the war, I wonder if the answer would be yes if they had to shell out $1000 minimum per household, likely much more.
I love Gaulic arrogance. Your companies have already made enough money during the past 12 years, Chirac. Look elsewhere.
Gallic arrogance is pretty cool too. I wonder what Julius Caesar thought of Gaulic arrogance. Veni vidi vici.
Is now a good time to remind everyone that France and Russia's contracts were due to take effect after sanctions were lifted, and that it was Dick Cheney's Halliburton who bought a good chunk of the oil Iraq was allowed to sell while sanctions were still in effect? No? Okay.
I don't think this is an issue of post-sanctions, Halliburton, or the powder that Lastort consorts with . It is France saying, "We will have nothing to do with the fighting and the sacrifice of lives, but we want the business relationships and money that are reaped from it afterwards. Personally I think that the French should find themselves on the receiving end of a "take this croissant and shove it where the sun don't shine."
France has long long ago been a 'friend' of Iraq, no matter at the situation. Yes, they did condemn the 1991 Gulf Invasion, but like the USSR, France backed out of the war and didn't send in much troops, only a couple of military geer to say to the world..."look! Here we are, part of the free world" But it goes to show, that even when Iraq does something bad, France's Economy somehow needs to relay on it, even if its not doing business. France has always been intrested in Iraq, even more so in the sanctions! Think of it? No body is a client of Iraq except Russia, the Arab states (excluding probably Kuwait and Saudi Arabia), and North Korea.... There is a huge market...a market that might be intrested in France items and a market that can produce oil for the French market. Like in my 'award winning' thread, -WHO BEAT THE DRUMS OF WAR 40 YEARS AGO" France's main objective in Algeria was the oil it had! Don't think those scum bucket French don't need oil! They drive cars too!!
As a result it would be "only logical for the French (oil) companies Elf and Total to close their offices in Baghdad and lose the immense concessions which they have won but not yet exploited," he said. EDIT: I thought we had been through this before....
'Take this piece of long French bread and shove it where the sun don't shine' just didn't have the same ring to it, so I substituted.
Sorry Dan, I was in Vienna at the time and had better things to do than log onto bigsoccer. Basically that article says that France hasn't exploited the contracts yet. If that is the case, it still shows they are acting solely on their interest in keeping their oil contracts. No who's this war really for about oil? Oh yeah, just one more thing, it's going to take more than one source from an organization that wanted to end sanctions to convince me of that being true. I know you have nothing better to do with your time, you can find a few. Especially some more recent than 1999 seeing as it's possible for situations to change in the span of 4 years.
We paid that much this year for a 7% increase in teachers salaries, so i am willing to pay a 1000 more for the death of the Ba'ath regime.
So you're saying that killing people in a country on the other side of the planet is as equally important as educating children? I don't know what I want more, cheap gas or smart kids to take care of my ass when I'm in the nursing home?
As far as I'm concerned, both look good either run through with a spear or smacked upside the head with a patriot missile. We came, we saw, we kicked their ass. Typical cynical French...let's not fight but like a jackal take all the spoils we can.
"The government is determined that French companies will be part of rebuilding Iraq, despite President Jacques Chirac's vigorous opposition to the war, a Finance Ministry official said." HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA ....... PLEASE STOP, I'M BEGGING YOU...HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Why are you here now, then? So, you have time to post, but you don't have time to be right? How fortunate I am, then, to have time enough to do both.
I don't know, maybe because I'm back in Norman, which doesn't exactly have the sites that Vienna has, in addition to having free and readily available internet. How was I wrong Dan. And I'm still waiting on some unbiased sources more recent than 1999. And I'm gonna need those TPS reports too, ummm...yah.
slimey double headers FRANCE i cant stand them, living in wales im too close not by choice i must add. two words to sum them up DOUBLEHEADED BASTARDS sorry for my french { pun} . i am all for the war but we should have finished him in the gulf war. i hope all our troops are home safe soon .************ taking the softly approach we should carpet bomb them not risk our soldiers on house to house fighting .after the war our next step should be to blow up the channel tunnel after we invade france .who needs them i dont
Well my last post in this thread has been deleted, but I think the French may have a legal argument if they entered into a legal contracts with the Iraqi government. UN Sanctions may have prevented said contracts from being legal, but I'm not familiar enough with the sanctions following GWI to know the specifics so some help would be appreciated. There are many precedents involving American companies after the fall of Iran where contracts with the Iranian government were carried over even though there was a regime change (sorry, but it's going on 5 and I'm too lazy to cite cases). But again this may be moot if the French entered into contracts that were barred by the U.N. Of course they could just deligitmize the authority of the U.N. the way we did when we invaded. Any trade attorneys out there to help with this?
Then your point is moot because you have no proof that France did not exploit said contracts between the publishing of that article and about 2 weeks ago.
Good thing I can, then. Read the other thread I linked to - Ian McCracken had a UPI story from this month saying as much. Too lazy to click links - what a shame, what a shame.