http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=578&e=5&cid=578&u=/nm/20030305/ts_nm/iraq_dc NPR also reporting it in afternoon feeds. http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/05/international/europe/05CND-PARI.html
Question for the folks up on the British politics of all this: Everyone was saying that the second UN resolution was essential to maintain public support for Blair's position. Would Britain's participation in the wake of a vetoed second resolution be more politically accepted than its participation without a second resolution?
Re: Re: FRA, GER, RUS, "will not allow passage" of force resolution. Well there is the small matter of international legitimacy for prosecuting an undeclared war on an soverign nation... Aw, phukit. Who needs Europe anyway?
"Aw, phukit. Who needs Europe anyway?" Those three are not Europe it is just some countries in Europe. Who have an interest an oil interest in Iraq. Which makes me laugh because the morons here believe we want iraqs oil. They want iraq's oil not us. I wish we did want it because we could take that oil anytime we want. Our interests are make sure they don't pass their WMD to terrorists. We don't need anybody telling us that we can't protect our interest so if push comes to show fucck the UN. We will do it ourselves with some of our friends.
Two good things will come out of this: 1. The demise of the UN as any sort of reputable world governing body. 2. We get to find all the goodies that France and Germany have been selling illegally to Iraq these last few years.
If one reads this you might turn into an anti-american. Cause you argument like these anti-americans see the US! @ Ian Ya right, and you can hide all the deadly stuf you sold them. @ Richie YOU write about morons...? domingo
not at all, these are the real 2 good things. 1. Acceleration in the process of EU integration 2. EU army and reconsideration of NATO's role. Inviting disappointed countries to use €s instead of $s.
Just to be clear, Ian, do you favor this because a powerful international organization of national representatives is itself a "horribe idea" to you? Or are you welcome to the idea, but see the current UN as flawed beyond usefullenss?
France and Germany are key members and the vast majority of europeans are with them. Any push in that direction will have a strong support, more than ever. We are already preparing a common constitution. I participated in a poll online yesterday in the EU web pages. You should see the results, above all those concerning US foreign policies, bush, NATO, EU army, the EU president. I think you're sure italian government is aligned (to tell the truth yes and no, as always) but 1) italians are probably the most europeists in Europe. 2) France and Germany have never been this popular. 3) 70% of italians are against a war even if UN backed. 4) berlusconi's government is going down and down in the polls. Yesss. berlusconi has said that UN must decide and he's letting your transports thru Italy. More than this he can't do, he's got to face new election sooner or later. Probably he has already gone too far. If France, Germany and Italy go forward the others, with the exception of UK, are obliged to follow. Why? "€"