Fox Sports World report says. Mexico avenged 2002 World Cup loss to USA ?????

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by GIO17, Feb 12, 2004.

  1. GIO17

    GIO17 Member

    Nov 29, 1998
    http://www.foxsportsworld.com/content/view?contentId=2134080

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    Playing before a noisy crowd of almost 57,000, Mexico avenged a 2-0 World Cup loss two years ago.
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    Is this an avenging win for Mexico? I mean a true avenging win from the 2002 2nd round World Cup match against our boys should be Brad Friedel, Brian McBride, Josh Wolff, Claudio Reyna, John O' Brien, etc., etc., etc.,

    This is an Olympic Qualifying event. Maybe Beasley & Donovan was on the squad, but not everyone was from that World Cup squad was qualifying for the Olympics.

    This is in my opinion is poor reporting. I agree that we will never know if these two sides will meet each other again after the group stage of the World Cup. But I don't think that this win in an Olympic Qualifying match is avenged from a World Cup victory. When will the USA face England in a World Cup match and England probably still wants to avenge the 1950 loss or at least those older Englishmen who saw that match want some sort of satisfaction from that defeat.

    Other than that. Mexico hasn't avenged anything in my mind. The World Cup in my opinion is larger than the Olypmics. Don't get me wrong the Olympics are still an important event. The right to represent and qualify for your country for both tournaments. But in a Qualifying match as well as World Cup Qualifying. There is no avenging till you actually meet on the big stage and that would mean Round of 16, Quarters, Semis & or World Cup Final. Because we know that USA and Mexico will never meet in a World Cup Group match so again. Like I said. This loss to Mexico in a Olympic Qualifying tournament is not in my opinion avenging the World Cup 2nd round match that Mexico lost to our boys in 2002.
     
  2. Red Card

    Red Card Member+

    Mar 3, 1999
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just a writer filling up space and using "avenge" without knowing the facts. It was a great win for Mexico and portends great things for them in the future. But some "avenge" will only come to them if they can knock us out of WCQ or beat us at the WC itself (unlikely because of grouping).

    The things non-soccer writers will come up with are astounding. My all-time favorite is the "lifting of England's spirits" after losing to Argentina in 1998 WC. Some writer claimed that Tim Henman's making the Wimbledon semis lifted the spirit of the nation from its soccer depression. Pure nonsense.

    http://archives.tcm.ie/irishexaminer/1998/07/02/fshead.htm
     
  3. Line9Foul

    Line9Foul New Member

    Jan 10, 2004
    Good ol' USA
    It wanst revenged at all... not to say that mexico was by far the better team and they kicked our ass big time... this was only an U23 Tournament... revenge would be if Mexico Elimited us from the world cup, Like England Beat Argentina 1-0 after the had fallen to them in the previous world cup through a penalty shoot out... until Mexico beats our Senior Squad at a world cup or eliminates us from the qualifiers then its not a revenge

    Good Luck to Mexico in Athens
     
  4. Bethany

    Bethany New Member

    Sep 3, 2002
    There was even an article that interviewed a Mexican team player before the match on May 8th in Houston when Mexico played the US.

    He mentioned that since the loss occurred in the World Cup, it could only be avenged in the World Cup.

    I think that's a pretty good point, and agree with you.
     
  5. United20

    United20 Member

    Feb 26, 2001
    New York City
    Lets see....hmm....Olympics...or...World Cup?


    This reporter has lost focus.
     
  6. saabrian

    saabrian Member

    Mar 25, 2002
    Upstate NY
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's how media outlets work the angles on these stories. If Mexico had beat us in that friendly in Houston, THAT would've been the 'revenge' for Korea/Japan according to the media.

    My Mexican friend was trying to act like it made up for losing in Asia but I don't think even he believed it. When he tried to gloat, I just sent him the following link

    http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/02/es/t/m/53/
     
  7. Adam Zebrowski

    Adam Zebrowski New Member

    May 28, 1999
    I agree with those who write, mexico eliminating USA from the WC is the ONLY meaningful avenging.

    Still with 3 slots, plus a play-off against Asia, it'd take several really poor matches NOT to qualify.

    And, the senior national team has more than sufficient pedigree to do what's needed to qualify for '06.
     
  8. Crewmudgeon

    Crewmudgeon Member+

    Sep 3, 1999
    Crewdom
    If Mexico think they've avenged their loss, its OK by me. I'll trade a WC win for a U-23 loss any day of the week.
     
  9. Red Card

    Red Card Member+

    Mar 3, 1999
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I read where ussf is not lodging a protest for the usama chants. I don't agree with that.

    Yet fifa regularly investigates racism at soccer matches, so I'm hoping fifa looks into it. Then they should slap the Mexican fed with a fine, and take away some home games during qualifying.
     
  10. Poet

    Poet Member+

    Mar 13, 2001
    Toledo, Ohio
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Mexico has been on the wrong end of the scoreline with us for a good stretch there. Sooner or later they'd get one -- good for them, but these will be fewer and fewer in the coming years. Revenge for WC? No way.

    Regarding Osama Where Ya Bin Hiden Lately, while the chants are indefensible, I'm not so sure the USSF made the wrong decision in just letting it go. When we get him though, we'll send his corpse (less the JDAM up his arse) on a world tour and then they can worship their hero up close.
     
  11. greenbill

    greenbill New Member

    Apr 30, 2003
    York, PA
    Their loss to us in WC2002 has been avenged??? Great, now its our turn!
     

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