OK, the order is: Knave Val Cop Shoot Cop Brummie Nutter Roby Chaski The Laws are: No snaking. We draft in the order above, and when Chaski is done we'll go back to Knave. 5 Rounds. There aren't that many founding fathers. Each person gets to define what they think a "founding father" is. Each person is "on the clock" for a max of four hours. After four hours, the next person in line can post his selection. Any late drafters can post their selections at any time. If you are going to be late or are busy, feel free to ask the person after you to post a proxy vote for you. Anyone can add in to the draft up until the end of the first round. Once Knave makes his second selection, the draft is set. When you are done with your selection, tag or PM the person next in line. Grimes will resolve any issues (Hail, Hail) that may arise because of cantankerousness of the players (c'mon, look at the list of participants) or the slapdash manner of these rules. I will be starting a new thread and tagging Knave. Any questions???
Although not conventionally considered a founding father, I'll be very sad if no one picks Locke, You wouldn't like me when I'm sad.
That's a bullshit pick if ever there was one. Pick that and I say you're disqualified. The dude died in 1704.
You're crazy if you don't think Locke's ideas HEAVILY influenced the formation of the country as much as anyone else.
If Locke is allowed, someone else will pick Hobbes. And then the draft will become nasty, brutish, and short.
Actually, there's considerable debate about how directly this influence happened. The Second Treatise was not particularly available in the colonies at the time, and it wasn't all that widely printed period. Passages were, however, commonplaced into collections that were available. Bottom line, the language of Locke was certainly in the air, but it's not as clear that the Second Treatise as a work itself was all that influential directly. But the point isn't about influence. It's about whether you were there during the founding era our not. I figure it's pretty uncontroversial to say the founding era is between the lead up to the Revolution and the War of 1812. I won't challenge you on Otis or Paine if you want to choose a pamphleteer. But I will challenge you on a guy who died 72 years before the Revolution.