Formal bids filed to host 2010 World Cup finals

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  1. soccerfan

    soccerfan BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 13, 1999
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  2. B1

    B1 Member

    Feb 19, 1999
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    United States
    I was under the impression that we wanted 2014. The interest we had in 2010 would be if after an African nation was chosen and were deemed not to be ready before the start then we would swoop in and host.
     
  3. IASocFan

    IASocFan Moderator
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    Blatter (and many others) had tried to get FIFA to award WC 2006 to South Africa back in 2000. When the New Zealand rep abstained the cup was given to Germany. Sometime after that, FIFA announced that the cup would be rotated by continent, and the Africa would get 2010. Therefore only Africa nations are bidding.

    There have been numerous threads and articles written that since Africa will be incapable of adequately hosting the World Cup that the obvious second choice would the the good old USA. I suspect one of the African nations (probably South Africa) will host a great World Cup - just as Korea and Japan were able to do.
     
  4. soccerfan

    soccerfan BigSoccer Supporter

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    Now I will ask you to look deep in your mind and heart or both, and tell me honestly Do you belive that S.Africa or any other country from Africa can pull of what it took S.Korea and Japan together to do ? .... and the only reason i am asking was because you included the word ' great "
     
  5. IASocFan

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    Money, lot's of it and help from FIFA and the more developed countries. And corporations, that can make money on the tourists.
     
  6. neilgrossman

    neilgrossman New Member

    May 12, 2000
    Hoboken, NJ
    The important thing to keep in mind is the US needs about a month to get ready for the World Cup. Other countries aren't used to hosting big events and would need to build stadiums.

    If they are going to award it to Africa and pull out, let FIFA take their time. The closer they are to the start of the Cup, the harder it will be to move it to any country other than the US.
     
  7. Various Styles

    Various Styles Member+

    Mar 1, 2000
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    Mexico allready had talks with Blatter (since last year) to be the back up host in case anything goes wrong with the African Candidates. That said there are three new Stadiums beign built in Mexico as we speak.
     
  8. Roel

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    I'd give my left elbow to watch World Cup action in Mexico. Too young, last time
     
  9. Metros#1

    Metros#1 New Member

    May 14, 2001
    NJ
    Mexico is close enough and cheap. It will do. However, for the sake of money, it's more likely FIFA will make US a two-time host beofore Mexico becomes a three-time host.
     
  10. speedcake

    speedcake Member

    Dec 2, 1999
    Tampa
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    Re: Re: Formal bids filed to host 2010 World Cup finals

    Maybe, and maybe not. If we are going to put in a serious bid for 2014 then I would doubt we would be first choice in the case that the African nation has to pull out. If we get 2010 we would basically forfiet our chance at the next cup. And if Mexico gets it there will be pressure to NOT have the very next cup in N. America.

    I would love back to back cups on this continent, but I don't think it will happen.

    I also don't think any African nation can hold the world cup in 7 years time. It will take SO much outside dough and support. You simply have to rule out places like Nigeria due to the danger of violence and the fact that they are POOR POOR POOR.

    S. Korea and Japan had the dough to pull off the cup, but they needed to do it togethor. It would take half the African continent all co-hosting the tourny to have enough good venues and enough infra structure. S. Africa, I would assume, would get alot more financial assistance from outside, and maybe could go it alone. But geez, how attractive a destination is S. Africa? BLAH!
     
  11. Roel

    Roel Member

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    What, the field at Tripoli High School for girls' isn't good enough for the World Cup? Or maybe a game inside one of the bomb craters after the 1986 attacks?

    Go Libya. My second choice, after Mexico!
     
  12. Various Styles

    Various Styles Member+

    Mar 1, 2000
    Los Angeles
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    South America has first dibs for 2014 most likely Argentina and Brazil (there has been talks of Co Hosting) Now i dont understand how everyone is assuming the USMNT will get 2010 when they are not making any formal bids. Not that i dont mind having a World Cup at Home but Mexico has been in talks since last year. I dont think the USSF has done anything in this regard ?
     
  13. speedcake

    speedcake Member

    Dec 2, 1999
    Tampa
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    I don't think we'll get 2010 at all, not even in an emergency. Especially considering the fact that we aren't even putting in a bid for it. But I wouldn't rule out a strong bid by the U.S. for 2014, regardless of what has been said or done up to now concerning that cup. I would agree that S. America is due though and it would be tough to steal the cup from the continent.

    This doesn't change the fact that we, along with Mexico, are capable of holding the cup on very, very late notice. And I would be fine with either choice. It would be good for the region.
     
  14. Deleted USer

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    Jan 7, 2001
    I just want to see it in this hemispere again....

    My sleeping habits are are so whacked since last WC.
     
  15. The Wanderer

    The Wanderer New Member

    Sep 3, 1999
    The fed is on record in one of their meetings as saying that they believe the 2010 bid to South Africa is a done deal. South Africa already has the stadiums, and enough without major renovations IIRC. They've got 7 years to bring everything up to snuff even if it's not quite there. And the weather there would be perfect--60s to 70s IIRC.

    The fed wants the 2014 WC IMHO.
     
  16. soccerfan

    soccerfan BigSoccer Supporter

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    ....and I want a million dollars
     
  17. The Wanderer

    The Wanderer New Member

    Sep 3, 1999
    Me too.

    South Africa is so close to a done deal I'd throw a few $K down in a bet on it. IIRC they've got something like 10 stadiums already meeting or very close to meeting the requirements. That's way more than any other African nation even if I'm off by a couple.
     
  18. RSwenson

    RSwenson Member

    Feb 1, 2000
    a few random thoughts on this thread...

    10 is the minimum number of stadia that FIFA will accept as part of a bid...

    SA have now hosted a rugby and cricket world cup without major violence or disruption (the really big concern)... 2010 is theirs to loose...

    FIFA said they were only accepting bids from African countries for 2010... ergo, the US did not bid...

    In an emergency, FIFA will consider the US even if Mexico had bid for being the "backup" a million years ago (where else would you sell out a 60K stadium at top dollar for a first round South Korea-Bolivia game, when both teams have been all but mathmatically eliminated)... but no continent will get back-to-back WCs no matter what the emergency was that provoked it...


    rand
     
  19. thacharger

    thacharger New Member

    May 19, 2002
    Southaven, MS
    Do you think the crickett and rugby World Cup can compare to the soccer World Cup in terms of the mass amount of people and money flowing through?
     
  20. Eliezar

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    2006 Germany
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  21. soccerfan

    soccerfan BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 13, 1999
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    FILED ?
     
  22. IASocFan

    IASocFan Moderator
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    I'll bet England gets the World Cup before the US!

    2018 is a good opportunity for England.
     
  23. michael greene

    Oct 31, 2002
    I think you might see China get the WC before both the US and England do. Almost certainly when it rotates to Asia, China will be the host. FIFA would be nuts to look past the marketing opportunities.
     
  24. CPorter77

    CPorter77 New Member

    Oct 28, 2002
    Va, USA
    Re: Re: Formal bids filed to host 2010 World Cup finals


    With the rotating system N.America will get the cup before Europe will again, i.e.... Germany, S.Africa, Brazil?, then the US, then England.
     
  25. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
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    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
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    Well there not getting it.

    The FIFA World Cup™ will head to South America in 2014 following a decision taken by the FIFA Executive Committee, chaired by President Joseph S. Blatter, on the second day of its meeting at FIFA headquarters in Zurich. This decision fulfilled the long-time wish of CONMEBOL to see the competition return to South America for the first time since Argentina in 1978, and advocates the recommendation of the FIFA Strategic Study Committee. In view of this decision, the executive felt that further discussions regarding the future rotation of the hosting of the FIFA World Cup™ could provisionally be put on ice.

    http://www.fifa.com/Service/MR_A/52381_E.html
     

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