Team, Valuation, Revenue, Operating Income (P/Ll) Inter Miami CF, $1.35 Billion, $205 Million, $58 Million LAFC, $1.32 Billion, $158 Million, $14 Million LA Galaxy, $1.08 Billion, $108 Million, $5 Million New York City FC, $1.02 Billion, $85 Million, -$6 Million Atlanta United, $1.00 Billion, $112 Million, $12 Million Seattle Sounders, $860 Million, $102 Million, $6 Million Austin FC, $840 Million, $94 Million, $5 Million Columbus Crew, $780 Million, $82 Million, -$4 Million D.C. United, $775 Million, $92 Million, $11 Million FC Cincinnati, $760 Million, $80 Million, $4 Million Toronto FC, $720 Million, $74 Million, -$10 Million Charlotte FC, $710 Million, $84 Million, $6 Million Philadelphia Union, $705 Million, $76 Million, -$5 Million St. Louis City SC, $695 Million, $72 Million, $2 Million San Diego FC, $680 Million, $65 Million, -$15 Million Nashville SC, $660 Million, $70 Million, $1 Million Portland Timbers, $655 Million, $68 Million, -$2 Million New York Red Bulls, $630 Million, $62 Million, -$6 Million Minnesota United, $615 Million, $60 Million, -$12 Million San Jose Earthquakes, $605 Million, $58 Million, -$3 Million Sporting Kansas City, $600 Million, $56 Million, -$4 Million Houston Dynamo FC, $590 Million, $55 Million, -$5 Million FC Dallas, $575 Million, $54 Million, -$8 Million New England Revolution, $560 Million, $58 Million, $4 Million Orlando City SC, $540 Million, $52 Million, -$3 Million Real Salt Lake, $530 Million, $51 Million, -$2 Million Chicago Fire FC, $525 Million, $49 Million, -$10 Million Vancouver Whitecaps, $460 Million, $44 Million, -$8 Million CF Montréal, $450 Million, $46 Million, -$7 Million Colorado Rapids, $430 Million, $42 Million, -$9 Million
Inter Miami CF: $205M LAFC: $158M Atlanta United: $112M LA Galaxy: $108M Seattle Sounders: $102M Austin FC: $94M D.C. United: $92M New York City FC: $85M Charlotte FC: $84M Columbus Crew: $82M FC Cincinnati: $80M Philadelphia Union: $76M Toronto FC: $74M St. Louis City SC: $72M Nashville SC: $70M Portland Timbers: $68M San Diego FC: $65M New York Red Bulls: $62M Minnesota United: $60M San Jose Earthquakes: $58M New England Revolution: $58M Sporting Kansas City: $56M Houston Dynamo FC: $55M FC Dallas: $54M Orlando City SC: $52M Real Salt Lake: $51M Chicago Fire FC: $49M CF Montréal: $46M Vancouver Whitecaps: $44M Colorado Rapids: $42M Total Combined Revenue: $2,405,000,000 ($2.405 Billion)
Combined operating income +$61 million Profitable Teams (Total $134M): * Inter Miami ($58M), LAFC ($14M), Atlanta United ($12M), D.C. United ($11M), Seattle ($6M), Charlotte ($6M), LA Galaxy ($5M), Austin ($5M), FC Cincinnati ($4M), New England ($4M), St. Louis ($2M), Nashville ($1M), Orlando ($0M - break even). Teams with Operating Losses (Total -$73M): * San Diego (-$15M), Minnesota (-$12M), Toronto (-$10M), Chicago (-$10M), Colorado (-$9M), FC Dallas (-$8M), Vancouver (-$8M), CF Montréal (-$7M), NYCFC (-$6M), NY Red Bulls (-$6M), Houston (-$5M), Philadelphia (-$5M), Columbus (-$4M), Sporting KC (-$4M), San Jose (-$3M), Orlando (-$3M), Real Salt Lake (-$2M), Portland (-$2M).
EPL $8,751 DBL $4,518 Liga $4,479 SrA $3,456 Lg1 $3,037 Above from https://www.deloitte.com/uk/en/serv...f-football-finance-europe-premier-league.html MLS $2,405 Brz $2,222 (2024)
Average MLS team valuation 2013 $103 M — 2015 $157 M +52% (2-yr) 2016 $185 M +18% 2017 $223 M +21% 2018 $240 M +8% 2019 $313 M +30% 2021 $550 M +76% (2-yr) 2023 $579 M +5% (2-yr) 2024 $658 M +14% 2025 $690 M +5% 2026 $731 M +6%
Forbes report, Teams, Combined operating income 2016 20 -$63 M 2019 24 -$105 M 2021 27 -$120 M 2024 29 -$95 M 2025 29 +$2 M 2026 30 +$9 M
You’ve got DC and Atlanta wrong. DC made $12M and Atlanta only $10M. DC is the most profitable club that wasn’t in the CWC last summer.
I assume based on your tone that you are firmly committed to this position and that no amount of facts will change that. There have been 3 teams sold in the last few years and all of them actually exceeded the estimated valuation. Estimated valuation => actual valuation Sporting KC - $600m => $700m Columbus Crew - $780m => $900m Real Salt Lake - $530m => $600m
So you're saying the numbers are lower than what they actually are? These sales weren't necessarily for the entire team either.... they were for percentage stakes in the teams. The Crew sale was for a 10% stake.
I can't presume to speak for everyone but I'm not sure anybody believes that you were snarking for the under.
Is San Diego with their good average attendance and revenue but still the highest on operating losses, in the long run will they be in a Vancouver situation?
I think that they have a 30 year lease of the stadium, but probably they have similar conditions of Vancouver where they don’t have revenue from parking and concessions.
San Diego FC "keeps all parking and merchandise proceeds, plus 80 percent of concessions." https://share.google/TlVcYOU9olwJxEJ7P
I'm saying these are somewhat educated guesses that a number of people tend to take as gospel. Do I think Colorado is absolutely for sure the lowest team in the league? No. I'm sure they're in the bottom 5 but it could be Montreal, it could be Chicago. Likewise San Jose could be 20th, or they could be 15th. Atlanta could be 3rd or they could be 6th. Its a decent way to separate the league into tiers, but lets be honest, most of us could figure out the tiers pretty accurately without this release. Beyond that its not particularly accurate, undervaluing and overvaluing clubs.