FMF suspends "Chaco" Gimenez

Discussion in 'Mexico' started by Monkeyboy2000, Jul 30, 2009.

  1. Monkeyboy2000

    Monkeyboy2000 Member

    Jan 27, 2000
    San Fran Bay Area
    Club:
    CDSC Cruz Azul
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Link - http://www.terra.com.mx/articulo.aspx?articuloId=854185

    "La Comisión Disciplinaria de la Federación Mexicana de Futbol decidió suspender a Christian Giménez, mediocampista del Pachuca con un encuentro de suspensión por una simulación e ir contra el Fair Play."

    Basically, he's suspended one game for the dive that fooled the ref into awarding a PK.

    Now, I'm all in favor of these types of actions being reviewed and having subsequent suspensions. However, I had not heard that the FMF would be doing that this year. I'm wondering if teams had been advised that this would be happening. Seems like they should have been warned ahead of time.

    Also, I hope that this covers all aspects of "fair play", including faking injury to waste time, players pretending they were hit, etc.

    Here's a link to the femexfut article on the suspension -

    http://femexfut.org.mx/portalv2/default.aspx
     
  2. Monkeyboy2000

    Monkeyboy2000 Member

    Jan 27, 2000
    San Fran Bay Area
    Club:
    CDSC Cruz Azul
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Well, it's all there in black and white - Reglamento de Sanciones

    Well skip sections 1, 2, 6, and 66. They are not really interesting.

    Here's the meat of the document from sections 67 and 75. -

    Artículo 67 La Comisión Disciplinaria, al determinar sus sanciones y/o dictar sus resoluciones deberá basarse en:
    a) El Informe Arbitral en cuanto se trate de infracciones a las Reglas de Juego o incidentes ocurridos antes, durante y/o después de los partidos oficiales o amistosos.
    b) Informe del Comisario del partido en incidentes ocurridos antes, durante y/o después de los partidos que no estén relacionados con las infracciones a las Reglas de Juego.
    c) Declaraciones de las partes y de los testigos, ó de personal autorizado por la Federación para permanecer en la cancha; las pruebas materiales, los informes periciales y las grabaciones de audio y videográficas.
    d) Documento ó cualquier otro elemento de prueba que le sea proporcionado.
    En relación con el inciso c) del presente artículo, sólo se admitirán las pruebas autorizadas por la Comisión Disciplinaria como medio de prueba legítimo para la determinación de las circunstancias de los hechos. Los hechos descritos

    Artículo 75 En los casos de simulación, para determinar la sanción aplicable se podrá
    recurrir a las grabaciones videográficas como medio de prueba legítimo para determinar
    las circunstancias de los hechos, en los casos en los que un jugador haya engañado al Cuerpo Arbitral.

    So basically FMF can have authorized folks submit video evidence to catch cheats. I don't know if these sections are new but I can't recall any post-game suspensions for diving prior to this incident.
     
  3. guado

    guado Member+

    Jun 30, 2004
    ocotengo miedo
    Club:
    Inverness Caledonian Thistle
    Nat'l Team:
    Indonesia
    they've set quite a precedent with this...

    i wonder how consistent they;ll be.
     
  4. tolucafan

    tolucafan Member

    Jul 27, 2009
    Club:
    Deportivo Toluca FC
    this is the stupidest shit ive ever heard. please ban whoever made this rule
     
  5. metalmaster

    metalmaster Member+

    Jul 7, 2004
    In the wrong hood
    Club:
    Hakoah Maccabi Ramat Gan
    They won't be.

    If they do. Gabriel Pereyra better pack his bags.
     
  6. guado

    guado Member+

    Jun 30, 2004
    ocotengo miedo
    Club:
    Inverness Caledonian Thistle
    Nat'l Team:
    Indonesia
    it's obvious they wont be completely consistent, ii'm just wondering to what degree, especially if they start suspending for embellishment.

    i think it'll become a circus and will end soon, or it will go in the why the mexican league is shit thread.
     
  7. Ecclesiastes2003

    May 30, 2003
    Que cagada de toro. Hasta en Europa se hechan clavados. Lamentablemente es parte del fútbol.
     
  8. quijas

    quijas Member

    Jul 2, 2009
    Guadalajara, Jalisco
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    it wont last much i say after 3 weeks they wont do anything
     
  9. Kaney

    Kaney Sleeping Dragon
    Staff Member

    Dec 12, 2005
    Lake County, IL AKA Southern Wisconsin
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Just because they do it there it doesn't mean we have to. Next thing you know every player in Mexico will have a ghey haircut like C Ronaldo.:p
     
  10. guado

    guado Member+

    Jun 30, 2004
    ocotengo miedo
    Club:
    Inverness Caledonian Thistle
    Nat'l Team:
    Indonesia

    before we know everyoen will focus more on their hair like yosgart
     
  11. Texas_SVT

    Texas_SVT New Member

    Jan 19, 2008
    Pearlridge, HI
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Im in favor of it, here is waaayyyy too much diving in mexico and the mls, and it brings some shame that we cant beat our opponents so we have to dive and hope for the best. During the Aston Villa-Atlante game when the atlante player dove and all of Villa was on him telling him to get up and quit being a puss, even the coach bitched him out and was thrown out for it, i thought it was cool that needs to happen to divers.
     
  12. fdp

    fdp Red Card

    Oct 24, 2001
    Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I would not be surprised that this rule change has something to do with the fact that Club America is nearing the relegation zone.

    It appears that the directivos are setting up safeguards just in case Club Americas percentage continues to fall.

    Imagine how handy it would be to suspend an opponents marquee player just in time for an upcoming match against Club America.

    Expect stranger things to occur if their % continues to fall...

    :D
     
  13. guado

    guado Member+

    Jun 30, 2004
    ocotengo miedo
    Club:
    Inverness Caledonian Thistle
    Nat'l Team:
    Indonesia
    :D

    wait until chon chon shows up
     
  14. metalmaster

    metalmaster Member+

    Jul 7, 2004
    In the wrong hood
    Club:
    Hakoah Maccabi Ramat Gan
    I wonder if they will suspend El Vuoso Polar now?
     
  15. ElRebañoSagrado

    Apr 25, 2009
    Mexico
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Vuoso and Danilihno both deserve more than one game suspension for their horrific dives.

    The Picante guys said that the Comisión Disciplinaria meets today.

    Not so sure if Pachuca's Benitez should receive one, though.
     
  16. Deleted USer

    Deleted USer Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    4 consecutive seasons without the playoffs and they are favoring America?
     
  17. guado

    guado Member+

    Jun 30, 2004
    ocotengo miedo
    Club:
    Inverness Caledonian Thistle
    Nat'l Team:
    Indonesia

    done.

    :D
     
  18. metalmaster

    metalmaster Member+

    Jul 7, 2004
    In the wrong hood
    Club:
    Hakoah Maccabi Ramat Gan
    That has nothing to do with refs, though. America hasn't played well.
     
  19. Hecho en Chivas

    Hecho en Chivas Member+

    Apr 22, 2004
    Chulajuana
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Mosquera got a 3 game suspension for socking some Morelia dude in the face
     
  20. ElRebañoSagrado

    Apr 25, 2009
    Mexico
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    More like a 2 punch combo
     
  21. Monkeyboy2000

    Monkeyboy2000 Member

    Jan 27, 2000
    San Fran Bay Area
    Club:
    CDSC Cruz Azul
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Just throwing something else out there, but on Futbol Picante it was stressed that these types of reviews (for diving, not necessarily for violent acts like Mosquera's), would only be reviewed if they had an affect on the scoreline. Now, having posted the exact wording from the FMF rules, I don't see anything that states that this post-game video review only occurs if the event causes a change in the game's outcome. Weird stuff. Still waiting to see if Vuoso also gets a suspension.
     
  22. metalmaster

    metalmaster Member+

    Jul 7, 2004
    In the wrong hood
    Club:
    Hakoah Maccabi Ramat Gan
    Vuoso's resulted on a PK. I would say that affetcs the result.
     
  23. Deleted USer

    Deleted USer Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    America did make a valid statement that Mosquera's 3-game suspension was a bit harsh considering the cases regarding Dario Veron and Bruno Marioni.

    Neither of them were suspended 3 matches.

    3 games is a bit harsh.
     
  24. Deleted USer

    Deleted USer Member+

    Jan 7, 2001


    its not a matter of me protecting my club (on the contrary) its a question of calling out the bullshit.

    How long are people going to keep on believing that America is still being favored and that Televisa is buying off officials?
     
  25. Rebaño_Sagrado

    Rebaño_Sagrado Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Home
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Until you proof to everybody's satisfaction that they don't.

    Guilty until proven otherwise.

    Unfortunately.
     

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