Florida USSF Recert 2011 to use FIFA Interval Test

Discussion in 'Referee' started by law5guy, Mar 4, 2010.

  1. law5guy

    law5guy Member

    Jun 26, 2001
    Looks like Florida will be requiring Grades 7, 6, and 5 to run the FIFA beep test instead if the U.S. Soccer Physical Fitness Test that is in the Referee Administrative Handbook.

    I wonder how many referees with no real desire to referee pro soccer will give up and drop back to 8 and/or go emeritus?

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    For all Referees grade 7, 6, 5 the following new requirements for 2011 will be in effect the 2010-2011 State Recert new 100 question exam time limit is 1 hour, Game log from every Recertifying Referee Grade 7, 6, 5 containing a minimum of 12 games in Grade 7 that is U17 or higher, Grade 6 Div 2 or higher, Grade 5 Div 1 or higher contact your assignor for games if you do not have them, Maintenance Assessment is a requirement get it done do not wait till Dec.



    Fitness test will be the FIFA Interval Test, it will be a audio sound and monitored test containing the following:



    6 each 40 meter sprints 6.6 sec or less miss one you can run a 7th sprint, Interval is 90 sec.



    12 laps on a 400 meter track Intervals total of 24 intervals:

    One lap consist of the following which times 12 total 24

    (150 meter sprint 35 sec)

    followed by

    (50 meter walk 40 sec)

    followed by

    (150 meter sprint 35 sec)

    followed by

    (50 meter walk 40 sec)
     
  2. hefftheref

    hefftheref Member

    May 24, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    yikes!

    hopefully this won't spread to other states...
     
  3. nylaw5

    nylaw5 Member

    Jan 24, 2002
    West Coast
    It will.

    This new test is a much better test of fitness for a real soccer game. Might be a few years but I would bet USSF adopts it and replaces the Cooper (12 min) in time.

    Means we get to start a whole new thread about how interval training is better than distance....woohoo.
     
  4. DudsBro

    DudsBro Member

    Jan 12, 2010
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Thats already been happening here (BC, Canada) for a year or so for anyone above entry-level. I personally think its a more effective/accurate measurement of fitness, but it adds a larger stumbling block for those like myself who want to advance. For the good of the game though I'd say.
     
  5. ctreferee

    ctreferee Member

    Nov 19, 2007
    CT
    Club:
    Olympique de Marseille
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For those who do not already know the FIFA test will be run at the RTS(pro) seminars this year. It is only a matter of time before it trickles down.
     
  6. NativeGuy

    NativeGuy New Member

    Jul 31, 2006
    The Magic City
    We ran the FIFA test at the RTS in Orlando last month, and nearly everyone passed. The only failures were a couple nationals who injured themselves: one in the sprint portion and one in the actual interval test. There were quite a few people who didn't train at all for this test and still passed.

    It seems difficult, but I think that most people in match shape should be able to pass with little problem. The 40 second rest period really is a life saver.
     
  7. DavidRichard

    DavidRichard New Member

    Nov 19, 2009
    Only thing that bugs me, I hear on the sprints your losing a second due to the electronic gate. Can this be confirmed?
     
  8. intechpc

    intechpc Member

    Sep 22, 2005
    West Bend, WI
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wisconsin has used this test the last two years for all 7's and above. Honestly, if you can't complete it you probably shouldn't be ref'ing the higher level games that are given to refs with those higher grades. I like it, I think it is a much better approximation of what we have to do on the field.
     
  9. Rufusabc

    Rufusabc Member+

    May 27, 2004
    Are Segways allowed in the Florida test? Golf carts?
     
  10. oldmanreferee

    oldmanreferee Member

    Dec 28, 2005
    Mountain View, ca
    I was told by a FIFA that you subtract at least .275 from your time in the sprints with electronic. So if you ran a 6.00 electronic then you are at 5.65 or 5.71
     
  11. chrisrun

    chrisrun Member

    Jan 13, 2004
    Orlando, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't understand what you mean. How is the electronic gate causing you to lose time? Seems like it would be more accurate, since you are allowed a running start.
     
  12. law5guy

    law5guy Member

    Jun 26, 2001
    anyone have or know where I can download an mp3 of the beeps?
     
  13. oldmanreferee

    oldmanreferee Member

    Dec 28, 2005
    Mountain View, ca
  14. glutenfreebaker

    Oct 3, 2009
    Mount Vernon, WA
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    awesome idea. If one doesn't already exist I'll try to make one and get it available.
     
  15. chrisrun

    chrisrun Member

    Jan 13, 2004
    Orlando, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    FIFA test in February is lot different than FIFA test in August. The heat index was above 90 when the test was run this past weekend. Only 5 out of about 40 passed the test.

    I am still not sure why grade 7, 6, & 5 need to run the same test as nationals. Seems like some sort of progression should exist, like with the Cooper.
     
  16. bluedevils

    bluedevils Member

    Nov 17, 2002
    USA
    Are individual state referee associations technically allowed to enforce different testing procedures (such as the interval test instead of Cooper test) than what is specified by US Soccer? My thought is 'no' but perhaps there is a loophole or disclaimer somewhere that I'm not remembering.
     
  17. Paper.St.Soap.Closed

    Jul 29, 2010
    I really don't see why people complain about this test so much. All you have to do is practice it a few times and its actually easier than the Cooper, IMO. For a few weeks in advance of the test, I set my watch to the intervals for run/rest and did as many as I could until I missed the time. Did that about twice a week and by the time the test came around my body was programmed to run the time. The key is to pace it right and not blow it out the first few laps.

    Easy.

    And electronic gates don't cause time to be "lost" they are just more accurate which can make it seem like its adding time. Saying time is lost by those gates allows us to put the blame on an external force, making us feel better.
     
  18. chrisrun

    chrisrun Member

    Jan 13, 2004
    Orlando, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't know how it's technically allowed, but I'm fairly certain this was done with USSF approval, at least informally.
     
  19. chrisrun

    chrisrun Member

    Jan 13, 2004
    Orlando, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Easy is a relative term. I don't find running the 3 mile FIFA test to be easier than the 1.5 mile Cooper test, especially with high heat and humidity. I can run the Cooper without training, not the FIFA.

    The point is, the lower your grade, the easier the games should be - therefore, the easier the physical fitness test should be.

    If grade 4s and grade 7s are taking the same test, then either the grade 7 test is too hard or the grade 4 test is too easy.
     
  20. aphelorah

    aphelorah Member

    Jun 9, 2010
    USA
    I think the national test is too easy, but if they used the times from the FIFA test, there would be too many failures. However, I think that Florida is going to send the results from the tests to USSF so they can come up with times and distances that 80% of each grade should pass. Hopefully it will encourage more referees to do some real training.
     
  21. andymoss

    andymoss BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 4, 2007
    Nashville, TN
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    The Interval Test is NOT difficult provided you have trained and provided you think about how you are going to appraoch it.

    In essence, you've got 75 seconds to cover 200m.

    Hammer the first 50 in 10 seconds and cruise through the rest of the distance.

    To the "issue" of a high heat-index, get outside and do some training.

    Don't pitch up and test day and say "Wow, it's hot! When did that happen?"

    Do we not referee 90 minute games when it's hot?
     
  22. bluedevils

    bluedevils Member

    Nov 17, 2002
    USA
    My 2 cents, the interval test is more difficult than the Cooper test and I'd guess most referees would probably have the same feeling if they tried both tests.

    But, the interval test with 35 seconds per 150m and 40 seconds per 50m walk is NOT a difficult test. A pretty high percentage of folks seemed to pass the test this year at the RTS sessions -- my impression is, US Soccer expected a much higher failure rate based on whatever calculations they made and based on previous failure rates at national camp (when the test parameters were a bit different -- only 30 seconds per 150m run).
     
  23. refmedic

    refmedic Member

    Sep 22, 2008
    I was thinking about this. The first time a referee is downgraded because they couldn't meet the interval standard, it might be an interesting fight for the state association. The Official Publication from USSF specifically delineates the fitness standards for recertification by referee grade. If you live in a state where your assignments (and therefore income) are affected by a downgrade, a good attorney is going to take the SRC to the cleaners for any lost income suffered due to the downgrade. If USSF wants to change the standard, then so be it. If the state associations want to offer the test to the 5, 6, and 7's who want to take it in addition to the Cooper, or make it a requirement for anyone who wants to attend the RTS, then great. Before anyone jumps all over me, I'm not against the interval test, and I think it is a much better gauge of referee fitness. I don't like the fact that some state associations are changing the rules at their own whim, and in some cases, not even giving the referees advance notice. These states also need to give the Cooper Test, and recertify those who pass it. If they want a different test, then they should petition USSF to change it. Otherwise, just follow the damn rules.
     
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  24. DWickham

    DWickham Member

    Dec 26, 2003
    San Diego
    As our first nationals who took the test discovered, a fit referee cannot simply show up and pass the new test. The passage rate went way up on the 200 m intervals once people learned how to time the jogging/second phase so that they were up to full speed when they crossed the start for the next leg.

    It will require, however, that individuals get fit to referee rather than referee to get fit.
     
  25. Bill C

    Bill C Member

    Feb 13, 2007
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    In focusing on the FIFA test, I almost missed the game log and assessment requirements. Am I reading this correctly that grade 7 referees require maintenance assessments in FL? Is this new?
     

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