flexible higher salary cap for the clubs who advance to CCL and etc..

pc4th, is that you? Where's the poll?

 

The rich get richer. Successful teams will have greater odds of maintaining their success in the league - an advantage completely at odds with the structure of the league.

Also, when you fail to qualify for the group stage the next year - how do you quickly shave 1 million off your roster?

 

1) Rich get richer. If Columbus gets to add more salary for making the CCL this year, it stands to reason that they would become a favorite to finish high in MLS and make the CCL next year (even if they were not already essentially qualified). And so on.

2) Toronto (and, eventually, Vancouver and even Montreal) would be held to a different standard. They have a 1 in 3 chance of making the CCL (assuming that talent is even, which may not be the case). American MLS clubs next year have a 2 in 15 + odds of winning Open Cup chance. Within the Open Cup situation, teams that did well in prior years (like the Columbus team that has qualified for the CCL) have a better chance of winning since they automatically qualify.

3) It's going to be rough to cut 20% of your salary when you fail to make the CCL one year. You could actually wind up with a situation similar to relegated clubs in England.

 

The same way I feel about all of pc4th's salary cap posts, especially when the proposed salary cap is based on something as arbitrary as making it into CCL. It completely destroys the parity that the league current has and would result in super teams. Making it into CCL and doing well is a good thing for MLS's reputation, but it can't come at the expense of the MLS regular season. Teams that make it into CCL will have an unfair advantage over teams that don't make it into CCL and will therefore be more likely to win the Supporters Shield, USOC, and make it to the MLS Cup. Some will fail to make it there, but even in EPL the top 4 sometimes don't make it into the top 4 spots, then those teams are faced with having to shed $1.5 to $2 million off their salary in the off-season.

 

Yeah.. Let me tell ya.. Columbus and Houston have been completely f***ed this year.

 

Yup.. One team struggling means every other team in the league should be put at a distinct disadvantage. Brilliant.

The solution to this problem is to raise the salary cap and roster sizes for all MLS teams, not a select few.

 

Heh... They got lucky? Let's check last year's CCL teams and how they did in the regular season.

Houston Dynamo - 1st in Western Conference, 2nd in the league
DC United - 6th in Eastern Conference, 10th in the league
New England Revolution - 3rd in Eastern Conference, 4th in the league
Chivas USA - 2nd in Western Conference, 5th in the league

Granted, Chivas and NE were bounced in the prelims, but even if you only consider Houston and DCU from last year and Columbus, Houston, and DCU from this year, it seems to me the problem isn't with CCL, but rather with DCU. One would think that as a DCU fan that you would be aware that your team has a lot more problems than just being tired from playing CCL, USOC, and friendlies.

 

You asked for criticism and got it, but you fail to address the points raised.

 

*laugh* Your response was basically "But DCU sucked the last two years and it's all CCL's fault!!" The fact that you've got a crap coach and a team that relies on old players that are well pass their prime and over-paid hacks that only give 80% on a good day has more to do with why DCU isn't doing that well this year than them being in CCL.

 

No.. I think the small roster and cap affect every team and the way to fix it is not to give certain teams an advantage over every other team in the league, but rather to increase the roster size and cap for every team. We aren't that far apart here, we both agree that roster sizes and the salary cap need to increase, you just want it to benefit a small number of teams, while I want it to benefit all of them.

 

Can't believe how many pro-communist in favor keep cap and roster for MLS team the same. Success should be reward it, increase salary cap MLS Cup winner at least $200,000.

 

Yes, success should be rewarded. Teams that have succeeded in surviving since 1996 should have triple the cap of teams entering the league after 2005. Also, any team that entered the league in the first expansion draft that succeeded after the first contraction should be rewarded with a maximum cap double that of the teams from 1996.

 

Furthermore, any team winning MLS Cup in their inaugural season should henceforth have double the cap they would normally have. Any team winning both MLS Cup and the US Open Cup in thei inaugural season will get quadruple the cap as a bonus on top of their current cap.

 

This.

 

Ah...so, you're Ives Galarcep.

I thought you were a RedBull fan?

 

Contracts aren't for one year.

If your concern is with DC, then perhaps the rule change should be that teams in the CCL should a) not have dumbass coaches and b) not be beset by injuries (which should be expected for such an old team.)

I could add a c) here. Not get screwed out of, what is it, 5 points? by league-acknowledged bad refereeing. Give DC those points, and their season looks very, very different. They're in the playoffs, they're Open Cup finalists, and they've got a chance to advance in the CCL.

 

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to bunge again.