Flaws of the new Asian Champions League

Discussion in 'AFC: Tournaments' started by Shah, Aug 29, 2002.

  1. Shah

    Shah New Member

    I was doing some reading on the new Asian Champions League format. I was surprsed that Malaysian clubs did not take part. Malaysia is one of the better legues in Southeast Asia, and I am curious as to why the AFC did not include them. I am also curious as to why this new competition does not bring in elite teams like Kashima Antlers and Dalian Shide until March. That seems rather odd. I am not sure this great new tournament is all it is cracked up to be.
     
  2. shenhua

    shenhua New Member

    Aug 27, 2002
    Parramatta
    Because it they bring in the big teams early there will be blowouts. That would make the AFC CL look really sh!t
     
  3. Shah

    Shah New Member

    Re: Re: Flaws of the new Asian Champions League

    Why not group play like the UEFA Champions League, and why leave out some prominent federations teams like Malaysia??

    Also.. I think it is already looking amateurish with both Bahrain clubs being banned because of the misconduct of the Bahrain footbal federaton, a turkmen club withdrawing because of financial problems, and one Kyrghz team being banned because of the conduct of that federation, but another one being allowed to compete. And they added some Palestinian club at the last minute (Al Quds).

    Seems like a very unstable setup.
     
  4. shenhua

    shenhua New Member

    Aug 27, 2002
    Parramatta
    Hi Shah, who do you think will win the champions league anyway
     
  5. jamisont

    jamisont New Member

    Jan 30, 2002
    Entries for the AFC Champions League 2002/03

    Zone One (West and Central Asia)
    Bahrain: Busaiteen, Riffa Club
    Iran: Pirouzi, Esteghlal
    Iraq: Al Talaba, Al Zawra?
    Jordan: Al Faisaly, Al Wihdat
    Kuwait: Al Arabi, Al Kuwait
    Kyrgyzstan: Jashtyk
    Lebanon: Al Ansar, Al Nejmeh
    Oman: Al Nasr
    Palestine: Al Quds
    Qatar: Al Sadd, Al Etehad
    Saudi Arabia: Al Ahli, Al Hilal
    Syria: Al Ittihad, Al Jaish
    Tajikistan: Khudjand
    Turkmenistan: Kopetdag, Nisa
    UAE: Al Ain, Al Ahli
    Uzbekistan: Neftchi Fergana, Pakhtakor
    Yemen: Ahli Sana?


    Zone Two (East Asia)
    China: Dalian Shide, Shanghai Shenhua
    Hong Kong: South China
    India: Churchill Brothers, Mohun Bagan
    Indonesia: Petrokimia Putra, Persita Tangerang
    Japan: Shimizu S-Pulse, Kashima Antlers
    Korea Republic: Taejon Citizen, Seongnam Ilhwa Chunma
    Macau: Monte Carlo
    Maldives: New Radiant, Valencia
    Singapore: Geylang United, Home United
    Sri Lanka: Saunders, Sri Lanka Air Force
    Thailand: BEC Tero Sasana, Osotspa
    Vietnam: Saigon Port

    looks like battle between, Kashima, Seongnam, Dalian, al hilal.

    [bahrain clubs were excluded from champions league, also Kopetdag of Turkmenistan -financial difficulty]
     
  6. Korean Football

    Korean Football New Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    U.S.
    this one is hilarious. The worst team from the last season's K-League representing the K-League.
     
  7. crom80

    crom80 New Member

    Jan 4, 2002
    never know.. remember how they won the FA cup??
    emotional shiet...

    maybe sangmoo will win cuz they're pushing to be a pro team (never gonna happen u friggin army gaylords)
     
  8. shenhua

    shenhua New Member

    Aug 27, 2002
    Parramatta
    Same for Shanghai Shenhua! They are absolutely terrible this year, third from bottom
     
  9. Korean Football

    Korean Football New Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    U.S.
    how were they before?

    were they the worst team for years?
     
  10. nw

    nw Member

    Nov 14, 2000
    Re: Re: Re: Flaws of the new Asian Champions League

    It is similar to how UEFA organizes their CL, seeded teams are automatically in the group stage, the rest need to go through qualifying.
     
  11. otterulz

    otterulz Member

    Arsenal, Atleti
    South Korea
    Jun 20, 2002
    LIC, NY
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So is this the same as the new AFC that replaced the Asia Super Cup or is that something else?
     
  12. topcow

    topcow New Member

    Nov 23, 2000
    New York
    They won one Championship and came second a few times. But this year they sold their best players to the other Shanghai team. So they suck!
     
  13. Korean Football

    Korean Football New Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    U.S.
    so they can't be as bad as Daejeon. :D
     
  14. kc123

    kc123 Member

    Jun 29, 2002
    They have some talent young players in the team. All they need are some experiences. Give them couple of years, they will bounce back.
     
  15. jamisont

    jamisont New Member

    Jan 30, 2002
    sad part is.. daejeon dont even have any young prospects,
    worst part is.. there wont be no draft in k-league anymore so it will be alot harder for them to get even decent young players. (who would go there if they are good young player??)
    good part is... their coach and owner dont really care about the standing, cuz there's no relegation in K-league.

    maybe if HanHwa takes over TaeJeon, thing could change..
     
  16. BrianCappellieri

    BrianCappellieri Red Card

    Feb 11, 2002
    Does anyone think there will finally be a non-Saudi or Japanese club champion this year?

    Also, does anyone know if Football Asia will show highlights of AFC CL matches? I'm not sure how TV rights work for this.

    Thanks
     
  17. Mel Brennan

    Mel Brennan PLANITARCHIS' BANE

    Paris Saint Germain
    United States
    Apr 8, 2002
    Baltimore
    Club:
    Paris Saint Germain FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You've had a Korean champion in Suwon Bluewings for at least the past year, maybe two.

    The format is MUCH better than the Asian Club Championship as clubs, with the $$$ incentives, are more likely to bring their best sides even to a "weak" matchup, just to ensure that they take home the purses...the clubs were very happy about the new format, but I did not know that the Malay champion was excluded, as some posts here submit. Must look into that one...
     
  18. Matsu

    Matsu Member

    Mar 28, 2001
    Malaysia are suspended from all AFC actiivities for one year due to match fixing.
     
  19. Saudi Bill

    Saudi Bill New Member

    Aug 6, 2001
    Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
    Korea did it last year...

    I think Saudi has less of a chace this time around since one of the teams its sending is curently under going a complere MELT DOWN!! (thats Al-Hilal), and the other (Al-Ahly) has never won an asian championship before.

    I think its going to be between KOREA/JAPAN/ and IRAN.
     
  20. Korean Football

    Korean Football New Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    U.S.
    K-League club Suwon has been the king in Asian club level for the past 2 years.

    In 2002's Asian Club Championship, the finals were played by two Korean clubs.
     

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