Fisher moves As to Las Vegas, Quakes next?

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  1. vamanoshasta

    vamanoshasta Member+

    Aug 12, 2006
    I'm sure a lot of folks would just go the games and leave, but there would be many that would hang out before & after. And all I said was that I've enjoyed the vibe of games of I've been to where the stadium was downtown.
     
  2. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
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    #1677 falvo, Oct 6, 2024
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    No but my initial point is or was, President Fox (as well as Fisher) lamented PPP as having the worst location in the Bay Area, next to the airport and at the confluence of too many freeways and far from everything (important).

    What I am saying is I just don’t see how moving or building a stadium downtown would be that much different nor do I believe it would move a needle.

    Except for when I lived in Europe for half a decade, I have lived in SJ my entire life and I don't ever remember SJ sports fans flocking downtown after a game more than they already do now.

    Regardless if the stadium were in downtown or not, fans may make it a point to go there but whether PPP is located on Santa Clara Street or on Coleman, nothing would change.

    Even though the SJ Sharks play downtown, as far as I can see or have seen since 1993-94, even their fans leave the SJ Arena, get into their cars and drive downtown.

    I've rarely seen many fans walk from the Arena to downtown.

    Aside from any of this, we are back to square one, where would a downtown SJ stadium be placed exactly?

    It's already a miracle we got the stadium built at its' current location so it will never happen.
     
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  3. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
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    Remind us again: Whose idea was it to build the stadium on that land, and why?
     
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  4. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
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    #1679 falvo, Oct 6, 2024
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    I don't remember but I think it was Fisher and Lew Wolff because they couldn't get any other land deal anywhere else.

    Looking at the city's layout, I don't think they will have ever been able to build anything downtown.

    I'm betting even if the baseball A's did come to SJ, building a stadium downtown would also have been an impossibility.

    Again , we are still back to where exactly do you build a downtown stadium?

    At the old SJ Hospital location or down by Spartan on SJSU’s South Campus?

    It will never happen!
     
  5. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Nothing wrong with the stadium location. Right now, it’s just the team.
     
  6. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
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    Italy
    Exactly.

    They are using the stadiums location as an excuse and deflection to justify their own mismanagement of the team.
     
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  7. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    United States
    Except that Fox is gone. So is anyone else in the organization complaining about the stadium location? or the stupid design? It's on them no matter which way you look at it. The stadium location is OK. The design blows chunks, the parking sucks, but the worst problem is that the team is almost unwatchable.

    GO Quakesfans!!
     
  8. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
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    #1683 falvo, Oct 6, 2024
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    Fox means and meant nothing.

    He just reiterated what Fisher was saying or going to say.

    Fisher complained last season.

    John Fisher is already unhappy with Earthquakes' stadium


     
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  9. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
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    United States
    Any complaints dickweed has about the stadium are entirely on him. He allowed the small size. He allowed the terrible design. He picked the location.

    He has no room to bitch.
     
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  10. Golazo69

    Golazo69 Member+

    Aug 2, 2017
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  11. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
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    United States
    We went to POR and SEA games the first year the Quakes returned, when we tried to travel with the Quakes. Those 2 cities are so much more walkable and bilkeable. And at least back then, so many bars and restaurants to hang around.
     
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  12. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Go to downtown SJ, park in San Pedro garage for $5, go to bars and restaurants, use the money saved on parking for some drinks or food, take the 5-minute shuttle bus to the stadium. PPP is in a fine location, and there's nothing wrong with it. :thumbsup:
     
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  13. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
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    PayPal is bike-able from where I live. And downtown San Jose is very walkable.
     
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  14. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    I noticed that the bike racks near Coleman and Earthquakes Way (just beyond the hot dog vendors) have been pretty full recently at PPP. Not sure why given that attendance has generally been down. I've gotten it down now so that I can leave my house in southwestern SJ at 7pm, park away from the stadium, pedal in, and be in my seat by the national anthem for a 7:30pm game. :thumbsup:
     
  15. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    United States
    The guy was an idiot. Those are things that make a good location. And what is the stadium exactly far from?? What are those important things?
     
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  16. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    #1691 JazzyJ, Oct 8, 2024
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    From an article about Fantastic Mr. Fox leaving the team - in the Orlando Sentinel of all places [surely we couldn't expect the local paper to cover the team].

    Earthquakes front office undergoes changes

    While the technical staff has remaining unchanged this offseason, the Quakes front office saw a significant departure as Tom Fox stepped down from his role as team president after two and a half years in charge. Fox had previously worked with Aston Villa before joining San Jose. He told the San Jose Mercury News earlier this week that he left the club to pursue new career opportunities.

    “I was getting restless and I wanted to do something else,” Fox said.

    Under his guidance, the Earthquakes did see an emphasis on building the club’s infrastructure, both in support of the technical side and the front office. However, the team failed to land a new jersey sponsor following the end of its deal with Sutter Health, and the stadium, once named by Avaya under a long-term contract, is without a sponsor in 2020 following the tech company’s bankruptcy filing in 2017.

    The Earthquakes will not replace Fox as team president as it continues its efforts to secure jersey and stadium sponsorship. Instead, Fox’s duties have been divided among several club executives on the business side of the organization, including Chief Operating Officer Jared Shawlee, Executive Vice President Jed Mettee and Vice President of Strategy Ian Anderson.


    https://www.orlandosentinel.com/202...sse-fioranelli-signs-new-multi-year-contract/

    So let's take stock here of the Fantastic Mr. Fox's reign in SJ:

    1) He failed to get us a jersey sponsor or a new stadium sponsor,

    2) The club realized he wasn't actually doing anything, so they could easily absorb his "responsibilities" into the rest of the executive team, and

    3) He got bored (maybe because he wasn't actually doing anything?). From his LinkedIn page I remember getting the impression that he was just basically spending his time and his Quakes $ skiing in Park City, UT after he left the Quakes, with little consulting jobs in sports gaming companies to help finance even more posh post-ski steak dinners.
     
  17. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
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    #1692 falvo, Oct 8, 2024
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    This is what I want to know.

    What are those important things in Downtown San Jose and where are they located exactly?


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  18. SoccerMan94043

    SoccerMan94043 Member+

    May 29, 2003
    San Jose
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    United States
    Sounds like a great fit for the mission of SJE.
     
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  19. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Match made in heaven…
     
  20. Defender

    Defender Member

    Joe's Plumbing 86ers
    Feb 16, 2001
    San Francisco CA
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    PPP to downtown San Jose is the equivalent of Oracle Park to North Beach.
    That’s not inviting.
     
  21. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    United States
    People do it, what's wrong with it?
     
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  22. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Oh no, you mean get some exercise!! :eek:
     
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  23. Defender

    Defender Member

    Joe's Plumbing 86ers
    Feb 16, 2001
    San Francisco CA
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    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not enough people do it.
     
  24. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    If more people did it, then there'd be more people that do it. :)

    It's not the greatest walk. You have to go over 880 and stuff, but it's fine. Nothing to prevent supporters from making the trek in groups. And by the time you get there, you've worked off the calories from the beer and garlic fries you had downtown. And if you have a beer or two in you, or whatever your substance of choice, the walk will be fun regardless!
     
  25. Defender

    Defender Member

    Joe's Plumbing 86ers
    Feb 16, 2001
    San Francisco CA
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It’s prohibitive for bringing my young nephews/nieces. They don’t have the legs for it.

    Young folks with disposable income have plenty of opportunities to get exercise. If they want a night out to enjoy a show and get food/drinks, they don’t want to insert a couple hikes.

    Making it more difficult for ticket paying customers to make it to the stadium and come early, stay late, is poor business.
     

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