First debate between VP Harris and Trump...The only one? Tues 10 Sept 2024, 9pm EDT

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  1. charlie15

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    Massive rally in NC.....

     
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  2. charlie15

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  3. superdave

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    I know a younger man might not think like an oldster like me, but I’d leave out the 60 year old part. She’s just amazing looking, no qualifiers needed.

    Yeah, it’s very hard for me to avoid commenting on her looks because she’s not “politics hot” she is “real life hot.” It’s like not commenting on her height if she was 6’0”. It’s so, so obvious! It’s almost, I dunno, dishonest or misleading to not talk about it, not as something important to her candidacy, but just as a fact of her life.

    I saw a pundit write something that I thought threaded the needle well. It was something like, she’s incredibly photogenic; it’s impossible to take a bad picture of her. Which is 99.9% true; there are no bad photos of her. Except one.

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    As long as she wears her hair OVER her ears, it might be impossible to take an unflattering picture of her.
     
  4. Auriaprottu

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    Young Black Child JEJ is addressing joyfully squeals, "Nor should there be! Jefferson owned slaves and raped them. JFK kept mistresses all over the country!"

    Both, in unison <looking directly at the camera>: "Don't bring y'ass heah with no negative talk 'bout President Obama 'til you show a lifetime of disrespect to eh' sangle one who came fo' him..."
     
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  5. The Irish Rover

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    #830 The Irish Rover, Sep 12, 2024
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    Let me hazard an explanation:
    The People's Front of Judea (PFJ) and the Judean People's Front (JPF) both trace their origins to the progressive Democratic Socialists of Judea (DSJ), affiliated with Bernie Sanders. This movement, plagued by factionalism, lost momentum after he declined to seek the 2024 nomination and fractured without its standard bearer.
    The PFJ and JPF began in the left faction of the Democratic Socialists of Judea. Soon, this faction began agitation for revolutionary resistance, while the party's dominant faction insisted that the preconditions for revolution had not yet been met. The left faction split off from the party, denouncing the remaining Democratic Socialists of Judea as social fasces-ists. Internal divisions soon emerged in the nascent People's Front of Judea, laying the groundwork for the future split into the PFJ and the JPF.
    Those in what would become the PFJ argued that fruitful tactical alliances could be made with non-revolutionary forces, principally those who thought a passing remark about a woman's good could, in principle, be acceptable.
    The Judean People's Front, however, argued that as Judea needed to make a strong statement of principle, the PFJ's revolutionary theory should not be adapted to accomadate such regressive forces. The JPF thus focused on the radicalization of the Judean masses.
    . . .
    It's still autumn. Everyone go outside. Touch grass.
     
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  6. YankHibee

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    I had something like this happen in law school where I'd hastily written a term paper on a fairly esoteric topic only to discover a couple hours before it was due that my entire premise was erroneous. I don't now remember it well enough to say what the error was, but it was something or another to do with exhaustion of legal remedies in tribal courts. It was far too late to correct it, so I just ran with it and submitted it. Fortunately, the prof had no exposure to the area of law and my internal reasoning was sound...it ended up being one of the highest marks I received during those three years.
     
  7. superdave

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    Obama was definitely “politician hot” and I think that helped him a little DIRECTLY with voters. He’s pleasant to look at! Who doesn’t like looking at pretty things, whether it’s Obama’s face or Kamala’s face or Kinzinger’s physique or a painting? But I also wonder if the confidence one has in high school when everyone wants to date you carries through to later life, giving him an indirect edge.
     
  8. YankHibee

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    "Neither on my nethers when your mom is around."

    At least that's what he should've answered.
     
  9. The Irish Rover

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    Not to mention his comic timing being impeccable
     
  10. Sounders78

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    Splitter! ;)
     
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  11. superdave

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    I’m straight and I thought this was funny! I think you’re misjudging your audience.

    But it’s a very tough needle to thread…we can talk about it for fun as an aside. And we can just point out that voters prefer attractive people, and also that in particular Trump puts tremendous importance on one’s hotness, and it matters a bit in that context. That feels in bounds so long as the discussion is fleeting. If we were, I dunno, comparing Harris to Whitmer etc. etc. and ranking them on bangability, that’s way out of bounds.

    Plus, there’s a difference between talking about Kinzinger’s cock and Harris’ attractiveness. Now, if the talk turns to her figure, for me that’s very different. But that might be me coming from a specific place and time, not some universal value throughout mankind.
     
  12. superdave

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    :ROFLMAO::inlove:
     
  13. diablodelsol

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    Pretty good graphic of what had me triggered during the debate. This is what I perceived…but thought I might have missed a couple where she indeed did get the last word. But it felt like 100%…and it was.



    Now…I do recognize that near 100% of the time when he was speaking she benefited from it. However…I feel had she corrected the moderators…and forced them to either check this behavior…or afford her the opportunity to actually get the final word…she had a dozen very easy opportunities to absolutely torch him….way way worse than he torched himself.

    I don’t remember who criticized me the other night for my negative comments on Harris’ performance during the debate (and I did go back and look and devoid of context that was a fair criticism of me)…this was the point I was trying to make.

    She murdered him in this debate. Better managed….she would have split him into a million pieces and launched him into the sun.
     
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  14. superdave

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    There are a lot of debates where social media would turn that hilarity into a big viral moment. But it can’t compete with concept of a plan and they’re eating dogs.

    Yeah, the first half of that hesitation (it was so long there was a halftime) I was thinking she was stuck. Nope, she just had to dig deeeeeeep to not call him a ********er, or ********wad, or ****************, or ******** monkey, or…you get the point.

    Nice save, Kamala, nice save.
     
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    And add to that graph the one time she did try to get the final word the moderator cut her off and wouldn't let her, whereas they let the orange fascist every single time.
     
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  16. superdave

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    She is NOT. Not NIGHT. Geez
     
  17. superdave

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    That IMO was the real miss by the mods. That one pissed me off.

    I feel on this thread, and in the media, people aren’t complimenting the moderators enough for their questions. I watch lots of debates and think every damn question is dumb…not the topic necessarily, but the questions are written to elevate the moderator, to make him/her seem smart. Didn’t feel that this time. The questions were well written, more focused.

    The focus on the (I think) 3 fact checks is taking away from the quality of the questions.
     
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  18. The Irish Rover

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    1) That's right fool, dig that hole
    2) Seriously?
    3) WTF?
    4) There's ridiculous & then there's whatever nonsense that was
    5) No, seriously, what the ******** is wrong with you?
    6) Say what?
    7) Damn, you are stupid
    8) I will end you
    9) Bitch, please
    10) Just STFU already
     
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  19. Auriaprottu

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    Exactly. This. Thank. You. So. Much.

    If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand damn times. The sexes are attracted to one another. That isn't sexist, nor is it predatory.

    Folks who walk around with a clipboard about this sort of thing are confused. The attraction between both sexes that causes both ********ing sexes to comment positively on each other's physical attributes is not the problem. If there's a problem, it's the power gap whether anyone comments publicly about anyone else's appearance. Let's start getting women into positions of authority so they can be as free as men have always been.

    Good damn luck getting human beings to not gaf how the other half looks. I guarantee you nobody here has dated a person they think is ugly.
     
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  20. The Irish Rover

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    TLDR this drivel translates into English as Punk Assed Bitch
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  21. Val1

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    I have. She was, well still is, extremely funny and off the charts smart. She was short and blonde. I like tall women -- my wife is taller than me -- with black hair. And my wife is quite bright and off the charts funny.
     
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  22. rslfanboy

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    I almost hopped onto the “you need to take a moment and reflect” train with that comment.
     
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    Is she truly ugly, tho? Or just short and blonde?
     
  24. Val1

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    I dunno. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I didn't find her ugly, but then I don't think I know anyone I would call ugly. I wasn't physically attracted her. I do know that most men looked right past her.
     
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    Is he looking for the next eclipse?
     
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