Fire vs. Revs -- referee "abuse"

Discussion in 'Referee' started by kevbrunton, Sep 30, 2002.

  1. kevbrunton

    kevbrunton New Member

    Feb 27, 2001
    Edwardsburg, MI
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Over on the MLS News & Analysis thread they mentioned that Llamosa elbowed or shoved the referee (Valenzuela) after he was ejected from the Fire v. Revs game yesterday.

    Did anyone on here see it?

    If it is true, how long should the suspension be? I assume he'd get more than just the 1 match suspension for the red card.

    BTW, I put abuse in quotes because I couldn't confirm that it happened, not to lessen what to call it if it actually happened.
     
  2. Rickster

    Rickster Member

    Dec 1, 1998
    I didn't see him touch Valenzuela, but he did give a linesman a little shove.
     
  3. CUS

    CUS New Member

    Apr 20, 2000
    Suposedly, Carlos gave one of the ARs the "Portuguese Love Tap" in his stomach. Carlos didn't seem very happy at the time.
     
  4. jjayg

    jjayg New Member

    May 9, 2002
    Rolling Ghettos, IL
    I saw him give a slight push to the center ref, then when the linesman stepped in he knocked the guys flag out of his hand. I saw at least one other push as well. Can't remember which guy he shoved the third time but he definately made contact with the refs three times. None of the contact was particularly malicious. He should definately receive a multiple game suspension (in addition to the one that goes with the red) but I don't think it was that bad.
     
  5. kevbrunton

    kevbrunton New Member

    Feb 27, 2001
    Edwardsburg, MI
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My mistake -- the other thread simply said referee and I assumed it was the CR (Valenzuela).

    Still, what should the suspension be?
     
  6. Greyhnd00

    Greyhnd00 New Member

    Jan 17, 2000
    Rediculously far nor
    death by lethal injection or imprisonment in a camp in cuba!
     
  7. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  8. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    NEW YORK (Thursday, October 3, 2002) – Major League Soccer’s Disciplinary Committee fined and suspended New England defender Carlos Llamosa for an incident which occurred following his red card in the 90th minute of the Revolution’s 2-1 loss at Chicago last Sunday at Cardinal Stadium in Naperville, Ill. In addition to the standard $500 fine and one-game suspension for all red cards, Llamosa has been fined an additional $1,000 and will serve another one-game suspension this Sunday when New England hosts the Columbus Crew at Gillette Stadium in Foxboro, Mass., in Game One of the team’s 2002 MLS Cup Playoffs Semifinal Series.

    During the Revs-Fire quarterfinal, Llamosa was shown his second yellow card of the night in the 90th minute for a hard foul on the Fire’s Dema Kovalenko near the sideline. Llamosa’s prolonged and aggressive dissent towards the officials and his failure to leave the field in a prompt and orderly manner after referee Ricardo Valenzuela showed the red card resulted in the additional fine and suspension for the Revolution defender.

    Per the League’s standard red card procedures, Llamosa sat out last night’s game, a decisive 2-0 New England victory over Chicago in Game Three of their quarterfinal series.
     
  9. Scott Zawadzki

    Feb 18, 1999
    Midlothian, VA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was watching the game with my son and agree with the extra game suspension. I'm glad that MLS took this action. There is no place in the game for Carlos' actions toward the referee and AR after his ejection.

    I'm very interested to see what Ante Razov's punishment will be for his spineless act at the end of game 3 of the series...

    Scott
     

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