Pre-match: Fire v. (rubber) D_C_ United 3.14.26 7:30 pm (CDT) Soldier Field and Apple TV

Discussion in 'Chicago Fire' started by xtomx, Mar 13, 2026.

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Guy, Gals and Non-Binary Pals, what happens in the latest installment of this "EPIC" rivalry?

  1. Fire dominate and win big!

    7 vote(s)
    41.2%
  2. Fire manage to win somehow...and that is enough!

    9 vote(s)
    52.9%
  3. Fire Draw!

    1 vote(s)
    5.9%
  4. Fire Lose, at home, and people are sad.

    1 vote(s)
    5.9%
  5. Malört! (Win, Draw or Lose, it's always the right option!)

    10 vote(s)
    58.8%
  6. Rübber Dick!

    10 vote(s)
    58.8%
  7. Did I insult the legacy of Rubber Dick by writing (rubber) D_C_ United?!? Not sure about that

    4 vote(s)
    23.5%
  8. Something Stooopid Happens!

    12 vote(s)
    70.6%
  9. Well, something stupid is certainly happening on both sides of the Straights of Hormuz

    7 vote(s)
    41.2%
  10. Did we really need to provoke this fight? It seems pretty stupid to do so.

    8 vote(s)
    47.1%
  11. Well, the Bulls suck, the Hawks suck, the White Sox have not started, i guess I will watch the Fire.

    3 vote(s)
    17.6%
  12. Hey, you forgot to include the Cubs!!! (no, I didn't 'forget')

    2 vote(s)
    11.8%
  13. The US Mint is removing the "olive branches" from the dime this year. I am against it!

    6 vote(s)
    35.3%
  14. When was the last time anyone used (or even saw) a dime?!?

    6 vote(s)
    35.3%
  15. I am going to check the weather around 4:00 to decide if i am going or not.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  16. I will be at the match. Weather be Damned!

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  17. I will be at the match. I am Damned!

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  18. I will be warm and mostly dry (unless I pee myself or spill my beer) on the couch

    9 vote(s)
    52.9%
  19. I have a St. Patrick's Party to attend (despite it not actually being St. Patrick's Day)

    1 vote(s)
    5.9%
  20. I will be up at 9:30 am to watch the match Sunday morning!

    1 vote(s)
    5.9%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. xtomx

    xtomx Moderator
    Staff Member

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    After last week's scintillating match in the city named after the assaulter of an entire hemisphere, the Fire return to the somewhat friendly confines of Soldier Field to take on another team that is a mere shadow of its former glory, DC United.

    All time, the Fire have played DC United 73 times (third most next to 80 against the aforementioned Columbus and 75 against New England) with a record of 24 wins, 22 draws and 27 losses against the team from the Nation's Capital.

    Historically, the Fire have been fairly decent at home against DC United, with 13 wins, 15 draws and only 8 losses, and have never lost a playoff match against them. Of course, neither team has exactly made the playoffs with any regularity in past decade plus, so those stats are probably a bit old.

    DC United are a dismal 23rd in the latest MLS Power Rankings (Fire are 10th), so this might make things looks like an easy match. I do not think it will be.

    Everyone remembers last summer's 7-1 demolition of DC United, where a certain back up striker (in name only, except for that match), picked up a hattrick. Yes, DC United sucked so bad, "mighty" Tom Barlow scored three goals against them. Fun times.

    Overall, Gregg Berhalter has a good record as a coach against DC. 7 wins, 4 draws and only 3 losses.

    The Fire on the season have not been credited with an assist. I wonder if the Fire have even gone three matches without an assist. I suppose there may have been a time when they lost three in a row and sucked in all three, but the season the Fire are 1-1-1.

    A plus is that the Fire have "competent" Jonathan Dean back from his suspension for picking up the silly red card against Montreal. With Gutman still not at 100%, a journeyman defender in Dean playing a bit out of position is better than nothing.

    A standout in the young season has been young Chris Brady, who has only conceded 2 goals in three matches. Both of those in the first match against Houston, with one being when he simply coughed up the ball and virtually gifted Houston the win. Overall, though, two goals conceded in three matches is pretty good for a team that leaked goals last year. He has been pretty active, making 8 saves over those three matches, with 2 saves each in the first two matches and 4 against Columbus.

    In the opposite net will be former Chicago Fire goalkeeper Sean "milkman" (remember when the Fire actually had promotional tie-ins?) Johnson. When the Fire unceremoniously dumped Sean Johnson after the 2016 season, I said it was one of the worst personnel decisions the Fire have ever made. 9 seasons on, and it remains so.

    Johnson has gone to play in 258 matches with NYCFC, Toronto and now DC and 8 USMNT caps. He has played at least 23 matches every season (even in the COVID-shortened 2020 season) since leaving the Fire, and only had two seasons with fewer than 30 appearances.

    In that same time, the Fire have had no less than 9 "starting goalkeepers," with Brady, SLONINA, Shuttleworth, Kronholm, Ousted, Richard "dirty" Sanchez, Matt Lampson, and Bava starting at least 1/3 of a season's worth of matches, plus Cleveland and a host of other names I do not care to recall.

    Keep Johnson instead of Lampson in 2017 and the Fire had a good shot of winning MLS Cup, although Lampson was not terrible in 2017..and was gone after the season.
    2017 was Lampson's only season in his entire career that he was considered a "starting" goalkeeper, but Bava started as the No. 1 going into 2017 (who was hurt and never heard from again after 8 matches) and Sanchez started a couple of matches.
    2018 was a goalkeeping comedy of errors as the athletic but inept Sanchez started 24 matches, giving up 47 goals, plus 5 in the US Open Cup. He was an embarrassment and I am convinced that he only got the job since he looked a bit like a young Paunovic.

    The Fire are still banged up and a few players have been pretty ineffective, yet, merrily, they roll along.

    In attack, we have Cuypers, Bamba, and our very own Zinckernagel, but they have not gelled like they did last season. New signings Salétros and Lod have yet to make an impact.

    New Chicago Fire beloved and Internet "darling" (and absolutely Scrabble winning name*) Mbekezeli Mfanufikile Mbokazi, hailing from Hluhluwe KwaZulu-Natal, South Africa, once again anchors the defense with the now recovered Jack Elliot.

    Up top, Cuypers seems to be a bit banged up still, but hopefully he starts and plays.
    Starting "striker" for the past match, Chris Mueller, did not, umm, do very well. 55 minutes played, no goals, no assists, no shots on target, no shots at all. That is not really going to cut it.
    "But those are 'mighty' Tom Barlow numbers!" some may say. "He will easily get a hattrick against DC United!"
    We can hope. We can hope!

    Speaking of hope. Hopefully, we manage an actual sighting of Viktor Radojević, as well. Signed from TSC in Serbia at the end of August, he has yet to make his debut due to injury. Maybe we can see what he has to offer sooner rather than later.

    It looks like the fan's have turned on Swedish International (and fill-in captain) Anton Salétros already. That seems a shame after only three matches, but fans are gonna fan.

    Of course, people were questioning our precious Zinckernagel after one goal in the first six matches last season. He then went on a tear with five goals and three assists in the next five matches and didn't look back the entire season.


    About DC United
    Once a mighty force in MLS, winners of 3 of the first four MLS Cups, getting crushed by the Chicago Fire in 1998...of course. They also won in 2004 under Piotr Nowak (starring 14 year old Freddie Adu!, seriously, he played in the 30 matches and had 5 goals, his best season as a professional) and had a couple of Supporters Shields in 2006 and 2007, but have done f*ck and all in the two decades since. They have also done nothing in the US Open Cup since winning in 2013.

    They have rivaled the Fire as the worst overall team for at least the last decade+, with no Playoff Appearances in the last five years and no playoff series wins since 2015.

    Gone is Christian Benteke, who had an excellent 2024 (golden boot winner) but a not-so-excellent 2025 (9 goals).

    I guess DC United are "led" by Israeli forward Tai Baribo, picked up in the offseason from Philadelphia. DC United inexplicitly paid between $4 and 4.6 million for him. Baribo did have a very good 2025 for Philly. According to Wikipedia he is a DP, but only earning $810,000 (well that is what he earned last season). Seems a waste of a DP slot.

    The other DP is new signing Romanian forward Louis Muneanu, signed from CFR Cluj after crapping out at Fiorentina. For reasons unknown, DC United played a club-record $7 million for him. He did have a good season in 2024 in Liga I (oh, that is the Romanian Liga I, by the way), scoring 23 goals in 35 matches. And had 2 goals in 14 matches this Fall prior to his transfer to DC United.
    He is a full Romanian International and scored two goals for Romania last season, but they were in a friendly against Moldova (ranked 158 in the world) and a 2026 FIFA World Cup Qualifier against San Marino (ranked 210 and dead last...in the world).
    I feel as there should be asterisks there.

    Backing up those two are midfielders Brazilian Gabriel Pirani and "homegrown" Jackson Hopkins.

    Really, other than Sean Johnson, they have nobody of note.

    As for the match, it will be a chilly and possibly drizzly 40 degrees or less (the high is projected to be 40 degrees). Last year it was 80 degrees on March 14th! That would have been nice.

    The Fire must win this match!
    The Fire have to win this match!

    The Fire WILL win this match! (or not. Who really knows?)

    Fire win 1-0 if Cuypers plays.
    and
    7-1 if Cuypers does not play, in a repeat of last year's match

    No, really, the score will be
    3-0, with Chris Brady managing to secure his third straight shut out.







    (*Oh, f*ck you with the "You cannot use proper names in Scrabble!" It was a joke, lighten up, Francis!)
     
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  2. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    All the whiners about player x or player y need to shut up. Three matches and jumbled lineups due to multiple injuries (again!) is not a solid basis for a valid evaluation. Wistful yearning for better play is fine, individual criticism is not.
     
  3. harrylee773

    harrylee773 Member+

    Palermo
    Jul 28, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This should be the first match I can watch live from start to finish this season- cannot wait until tax season is over and I can go back to a single backbreaking white collar job instead of two. I’ve not been to DC. before, but plan to be there this year in June - I need reasons why it sucks in the match preview!

    United is probably who I’d be a fan of if the Fire didn’t exist - I cheered for them the first few years of the league because it was never a guarantee Chicago would get a team (nothing was guaranteed lol- league was supposed to start in 95 with a Chicago team before being delayed, probably for the best) and because their name didn’t sound like a Nike commercial targeting Gen X. I wasn’t even a soccer fan before the 94 WC but DC United told me exactly what the team was, unlike the CLASH, BURN, CREW or WIZ. Anyways, this is normally where someone would say something like ‘and I still have a soft spot for them and wish them well’ but Ben Olsen played for them, so ******** this franchise into the ground. Please and thank you.
     
  4. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    I always think of this song when The Rhythm get mentioned…

     
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  5. loonixxx

    loonixxx Member+

    Chicago Red Stars
    Aug 28, 2004
    Soccer Limbo
    Club:
    Jagiellonia Bialystok SSA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    I'll just leave this here and go off and vomit in somewhere.
     
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  6. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    May 2, 2022
    I think the lineup I posted is a good choice against DC’s style.
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    The main question in my mind is can Shokalook drop/draw defenders and/or provide holdup play? If not, may make sense to play Lod instead. Other concerns are pace of ball movement, and wingbacks overall ability to play both ends ‘balanced’ (contribute to the attack without vacating defensive duties).

    3-4-3 → in possession wingbacks push join the attack in a 3-2-5/2-3-5
    • High tempo (which we haven’t done yet this season) circulation with frequent switches of play to move and tire the block, then attack the weak-side fullback.
    • Off-ball movements: Drop any of the forwards into the central areas to draw a CM or CB out, then play around or through the gap. Use overlaps/underlaps, and late box entries from overloads.

    Because we expect them to go long and direct when they win the ball:
    • Back three plus one pivot (3+1) behind the ball at all times to protect central space and attack second balls.
    • Line height: mid-to-high, not extreme; be close enough to contest long balls but not so high to invite runs in behind.
    • Compactness: 10–15 yards between back line and pivot line so second balls land in a crowd.
    • Fullbacks/wingbacks must be quick to get back. Borso and MHS can do it.
    • Up top, add pressing triggers when their CB or DM begin to get their head up for a long ball.

    If Davilla and our striker play without silly mistakes, I like our chances.
     
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  7. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What if Barroso and Cuypers are fully/ nearly fully recovered?
     
  8. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    sorry. Missed the player availability report.
     
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  9. xtomx

    xtomx Moderator
    Staff Member

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Exactly.
     
  10. xtomx

    xtomx Moderator
    Staff Member

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    DC United jersey?
    Great

    All the others?
    Awful and embarrassing.
     
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  11. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Many valid comments. The interplay between D’Avilla and Saletros regarding who holds back and who progresses the ball forward will be important. As will the overall effectiveness in progressing the ball. Obvious that Shokalook has big boots to fill. Less concerned about other areas.
     
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  12. loonixxx

    loonixxx Member+

    Chicago Red Stars
    Aug 28, 2004
    Soccer Limbo
    Club:
    Jagiellonia Bialystok SSA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don't care how it gets done, just win.
     
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  13. Jiggly_333

    Jiggly_333 Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 8, 2015
    Corner of Bedlam and Squalor (It's that way ->)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    I actually do have a St. Patrick's party to go to tonight, hopefully I can get myself back home in time to sleep well for the game. Been dealing with some somewhat concerning medical issues recently, which is why I wasn't in the thread last game since I basically slept through the entire second half, but I've been doing better the past couple days.

    I haven't thought too much about the injuries, which seem to be a theme over the GGG era so far. But this is a DC team that's just barely better than Montreal imo. Ya gotta do something here. And hopefully Shook or whoever will take Hugo and Mueller's place will do what they need to do. Maybe we'll even see Dean Boltz, which I keep mentioning the 2008 Miley Cyrus vehicle "Bolt" whenever someone brings him up. I have similar feelings about both.
     
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  14. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    May 2, 2022
    So Victor Radejovic is not listed on the injury report :cautious:
    And Dean is back…
    So a 4back line is feasible, and you could play either in the 3-4-3 I posted….but at the moment, I’m not sure either should start over MHS, Borso or Waterman(if going to a 4backline):coffee:
     
  15. xtomx

    xtomx Moderator
    Staff Member

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Courtesy of PDave this morning:

    Chicago Fire FC
    OUT: André Franco (lower body)
    OUT: Andrew Gutman (lower body)
    OUT: Sam Rogers (lower body)
    QUESTIONABLE: Leonardo Barroso (lower body)
    QUESTIONABLE: Hugo Cuypers (lower body)
    QUESTIONABLE: Chris Mueller (lower body)
     
  16. loonixxx

    loonixxx Member+

    Chicago Red Stars
    Aug 28, 2004
    Soccer Limbo
    Club:
    Jagiellonia Bialystok SSA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I guess we need to grind out our win tonight. Without Cuypers we have absolutely nothing up top.
     
  17. xtomx

    xtomx Moderator
    Staff Member

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    We can Shokalook!

    We should Shokalook!

    No, I have no idea what that means, either
     
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  18. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    May 2, 2022
  19. HerthaBerwyn

    HerthaBerwyn Member+

    May 24, 2003
    Chicago
    Were going to have to takealook
     
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  20. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe 4-3-3 or maybe 4-2-3-1. How they play on field is what matters.
    Apparently Cuypers and Barroso are “ nearly” fully recovered.
    Other than the weather, probably best we could hope for.
    Should be a good match.
     
  21. lurak

    lurak Member+

    Aug 24, 2007
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I see the Fire digital team has not updated the website with the lineups yet.
     
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  22. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    May 2, 2022
    MLS lineup
    upload_2026-3-14_17-56-58.jpeg

    I’m thinking Zinck at CAM with dual pivot behind him
     
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  23. xtomx

    xtomx Moderator
    Staff Member

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Too busy working on an "activation" to bother with the actual match.
     
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  24. xtomx

    xtomx Moderator
    Staff Member

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
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  25. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    no need for them to rush back from a meal- I guess.
     

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